Informal Minutes of the IEEE P1363 Teleconference. 7 March 1997, 10 am PST. In attendance: Lily Chen, David Jablon, Don Johnson, Burt Kaliski, Mike Markowitz, Alfred Menezes, Leo Reyzin, Roger Schlafly, Jerry Solinas, Yiqun Lisa Yin. Issues discussed: 1. MQV key agreement protocol. Roger expressed concern that the protocol had been changing so much. Alfred and Jerry pointed out that the changes were just "implementation tweaks" and basic protocol remained the same. Alfred said that technical details took time to iron out, and he expected that similar changes may well occur in other schemes before the standard is published. He argued that non-constructive criticisms of minor points in a draft version of a protocol would discourage constructive discussion. 2. Alfred reported that we had agreed on point representation for elliptic curve points, as discussed at the previous teleconference. 3. Burt brought up the agenda for the March meeting. He suggested that the bulk of the time be spent reviewing and ratifying the technical details of each primitive and scheme, pointing out that the document itself was not ready for a line-by-line review. Don pointed out that it would be helpful to do a line-by-line review of at least each primitive scheme while they were fresh in our minds. The participants seemed to agree with that. 4. Burt suggested that in addition to reviewing the primitives and schemes, we spend some time at the meeting reviewing the names of techniques to make sure we properly handle the tricky issue of attribution. We should also spend time reviewing the structure of the document and deciding how it should split into sections, where notes go, etc. He also wanted to devote some time to preparing the project authorization request for the addendum to the standard. 5. Roger brought up the STS key agreement protocol. Alfred pointed out that the protocol had been well-known since 1991 and had gone through extensive peer review. Many people seemed to think that STS was a higher-level protocol, not appropriate for P1363 scheme; they felt that including information on key confirmation into application notes was an appropriate way to handle this. Roger asked if we should put STS into the addendum. There was no clear opinion on that, and we deferred it to the scope of the addendum to be determined at the March meeting. 6. David asked for the reasons behind the unified model of Diffie- Hellman key agreement schemes, which Don explained. David pointed out that the "classic" Diffie-Hellman protocol was not very prominent in the unified model and the reader would have a hard time figuring out what such a complex scheme achieved in a particular case. Leo, David and Don agreed that this requires additional editorial work to make sure the scheme is clearly defined and understandable and decided to handle the issue off-line. We adjourned at about 10:40 am PST.