Phone Conference P1450.1 Working Doc Subgroup
Thurs, May 20, 2004, 10:00 am PDT
Attendees:
Tony Taylor (chair)
John Cosley
Greg Maston (scribe)
Peter Wohl
Doug Sprague
Jose Santiago
Daniel Fan
Bruce Kaufmann
Documents
Agenda
1. New Annex-O using Jose's
tablular format (attached pdf)
2. Use of parens and tics in expressions (see below). Need an update
from the expr-sub-group on getting NO-voter-buy-in.
3. Removal of annex-F. I need help creating a realistic alternate
example if we are to remove current one.
4. Syntax for CellGroups (attached pdf)
5. Progress and Status
6. Dot0 reflector and user-group phone call on Friday
Meeting discussion
IEEE meeting clearances
Nothing under discussion or presentation for this meeting was identified
as being proprietary or restricted.
CellGroups
More discussions during the week resulting in a new proposal, placing
CellGroups within ScanStructures. During the discussion of this new
proposal, the group advocated removing the attribute on
'cellgroup'-type chains entirely, and relying on just the scanchain to be
used as grouping. Additional modifications to syntax constructs used
elsewhere but added here is to allow the Base statement without a
wfc-list, as a chain declaration of Base Hex is useful but
coordinating WFCs to internal elements doesn't make sense. Also the
group needs to confirm that multi-bit constructs don't make sense in
this context as well.
clause 18.3, table 8
Proposal to add lowercase h,l,t here accepted.
Events are sticky in this context, and persist across cycle
boundaries. Therefore need to add the x-event to terminate the events
above.
There was some discussion about the '!' event, which was defined prior
to creating an 'S' event which appears to serve the same
function. Therefore the group agreed to remove the '!' event and
replace it with the 'S' event.
Annex O
This new Annex was generated by Tony for consideration by the Working
Group. Decision to use it was tabled for opportunity to review by the
members.
expressions
Tony presented his additions to using parens and tics. There were no
issues identified by the group for this elaboration. This information will
be incorporated into clause 6 which is being re-done by the
expression sub-group.
Greg identified his action item to document why we need ':='.
Annex F
Some discussion about the request to modify the example here, this is
left as an open issue at the moment.
Status
Tony identified the current completion percentage at 58%, with 125
tbd's remaining.
2nd User Group Meeting
Tony identified there will be a second phone conference 'STIL users
group' on Fri.
Annex N
no significant progress
Meeting ended at 11:05.
Next meeting
Thursday, June 3rd, 2004, 10:00 to 11:30AM, PDT
AIs
Greg - Statement of Intent on expression syntax and get NO-voters buy in
Tony - work with Rohit to resolve the timing expression issue described above
Bruce - rework Annex-N to clarify the use of labels and X statements
Tony - incorporate Jose's table into Annex-O
Peter - DM-5 "What is the nature of STATE_ELEMENT?"