From: owner-stds-1450-4@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG on behalf of Micek Tom-ra1370 [Tom.Micek@FREESCALE.COM] Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 9:20 AM To: STDS-1450-4@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [STDS-1450.4:] STIL industry usage conf call minutes - May7th This past Friday, May 7th, a conference call was held to determine the issues to drive STIL in the industry as a common language. The following are the captured minutes: Attendees: Tom Micek, Jose Santiago, Tony Taylor, Ernie Wahl. (Please see the attachment for the conf call goals & suggested agenda) o Tony gave an update on the history surrounding driving STIL as a common language. Bill Smith of Motorola organized STIL 10 years ago which became STIL_99. 35-40 companies at ITC stayed an extra day just for the STIL portion. Companies moved on to other languages since because STIL was slow to industry. o A email to the general STIL reflector bounced due to that site being cancelled. Tony will look into a list of persons within the dot1-6 groups which may have an interest on driving STIL in industry. o There was discussion of building a web site for STIL rollout. This site would contain the latest known software tools which support STIL, tester vendors which are presently supporting STIL or intend to do so, etc. This would be a site which the vendors would have input into along with users experiences. - There was a question if the IEEE site can point to this new web site. - Tony suggested that he would be interested in building the web site if a sponsor or sponsors would help with the funding of his time. o Jose mentioned that Philips is currently driving STIL via EDA tools. In addition, Philips has been looking at vendor tools SourceIII in addition to TestInsight Wavewizard. There is a goal At Philips to migrate to STIL. Jose's feedback from vendors was that legacy issues are holding back ATE vendors support STIL. o Tom mentioned that Motorola has a backing within the Engineering & Mfg. communities to drive STIL. Test Engineers must learn a host of tester languages which change with each platform. Manufacturing has problems of tester loading where resources are not available for platform porting of test programs. Both cases are very cost ineffective. There is also the issue of STIL being used to help with design debug feeding scan datalog information back into the EDA tools for a rapid gate analysis. Motorola has been pushing the tester vendors to support STIL readers and writers for the current base of testers. o Ernie mentioned that the scan chain feedback to EDA is something which can possibly be a case for management to release funds for backing STIL migration. We all agree that at the management financial support of STIL will require detailed justification. There are a number of EDA vendors which support STIL today such as Cadence Test Bench, Synopsys Tetramax, Mentor Fastscan & LogicVision (tool name?). o Tony brought up the point that in the past EDA to the tester was the main focus. There are many reasons for using a STIL based language which need to be captured. Tester vendors should be pushed to support STIL as the native language on next generation testers. o Jose: the topic for the next conference call should define the message to be delivered. If the idea is a STIL user group then there should be a way to present the benefits & where to look for information. o NEXT CONFERENCE CALL: It was decided that 2 weeks from Friday was the most agreeable. The topic will center on what the STIL message should be. A call in number & pin will be sent out in a separate email. <> -- Tom Micek Phone: (512) 895-7478 Motorola Mail Stop: OE21 Fax: (512) 895-3701 6501 William Cannon Drive West Email: tom.micek@motorola.com Austin, Tx. 78735-8598 The information contained in this email is classified as: [X] General Business Information [ ] Motorola Internal Use Only [ ] Motorola Confidential Proprietary