From: Don Organ
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 11:03 AM
To: STIL. 4 (E-mail)
Subject: stds-1450.4: Minutes from our STIL.4 teleconference call on 10/18/2002
Dave Dowding
Ernie Wahl
Tom Micek
Jim Oreilly
Don Organ
Larry Moran
Jim Mosley
 
 
 
Dave to send out summary from the meeting at ITC.
Verbal summary: Synopsys sponsered a STIL summary on Monday afternoon. Went really well and was well attended. Tony Taylor presented a timeline for the various working groups. Greg Maston reviewed some of the difficulties of STIL adoption. Various other presentations.
 
Issue #10 from the Flow Control issues list (of 5/14/2002)
 
10: Where is the Pattern Exec called from? (Calling it from low in the hierarchy - such as from within a TestMethod, allows more control and flexibility. However, calling it from high in the hierarchy would allow an entire sub-flow be grouped under a single Pattern Exec - which could be desireable when creating speed-binning flow - where 2 subflows differ only in the Category/Selector. Or do we consider breaking it apart?)
Ernie - a question regarding variables and categories.
Jim - could allow the Category to be identified within a FlowNode and optionally also from within a PatternExec - the lowest level (most specific) "wins". We'd need to precisely define scoping rules for the Category.
Ernie - concerns about the automated maintenance of such a system.
Don - let's redefine the question: Shall we consider breaking open STIL's PatternExec - and maybe using its components (such as Categories) separately at different levels of the Flow Model?
There was consensus on this point.
Ernie -  I have some concerns about how we define our use of Categories - I want to be able to do histograms without creating Categories for each step in the histogram. Also, would like to have spec variables values that are not constant - but are dependent on other specs.
Larry - use enumeration for small number of values, use an algorithm for a large number of values - don't use Categories for a histogram.
 
 
Don would like to contact individual working members directly while working on the draft document. There were no objections to him doing so, provided summaries are distributed.
 
Jim - it would be useful to develop a collection of test-program fragments to illustrate different test requirements and techniques.
 
Dave will send out the summary of the ITC meeting, along with a start on a glossary and a start on a issues document. We'll start out our next meeting by reviewing that.
 
Dave will collect phone #s and emails - as a directory.
 
-DVO-
 
 
 
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