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The following individuals attended the meeting
Neil Jacobson Ted Eaton Dave Bonnett Steve Klinger Alan Herrmann Bradley Ishihara Carmy Yellin Ken Parker Howard Tang David Thompson Mark Moyer
Election of Secretary
Ted Eaton was elected P1532 secretary with a vote of 8-0-0
Neil Jacobson discussed some recent changes in the email reflector and the addition of our new IEEE web page which will be maintained by Dave Bonnett.
Neil then briefly discussed the ballot process including the selection of a ballot group.
Alan Herrmann inquired about ways of insuring a fair and accurate ballot without the possibility of ballot group stacking.
Action Item
Neil will address Alan's concerns with the IEEE.
Motion: Minutes from June 29th and 30th
Ken Parker moved that the minutes from the June 29th - 30th meeting be approved. Brad Ishihara seconded the motion.
The motion carried 7 - 0 - 0
ITC Meeting? There was some discussion concerning a potential P1532 meeting at ITC and with the lack of working group member attendance at ITC along with the hectic schedule of the week, it was decided to have an informational meeting with no Working group activities.
Action Item
Neil Jacobson will produce a flyer announcing the meeting and distribute it among the working group members with booths at ITC as well as to the ITC information table
Draft Review: Review of the first "IEEE" style P1532 draft prepared by Ken Parker (Thank you Ken)
Section 2.
The definitions for CPLD and FPGA need to be updated with the addition of the general term Programmable Device (PD) and potentially PAL, PLD and any others deemed reasonable.
Action Item:
Neil Jacobson will provide Ken Parker with a list of generically defined terms for addition to the standard.
Section 2.1.10.3: Protect
The definition of protect is too narrow and will be expanded to include protection methodologies other than read protect. The definition will also be expanded to include multiple protection bits.
Action Item:
Neil Jacobson will provide an updated definition
General Note:
A general consensus was reached that the document will use the term "Programmable Device" rather than "Programmable Logic Device" as the base target of the standard.
Section 3 System Modes
Figure 3-3
Section 3.1 Definitions
In general the definition section will be updated with the following goals.
Section 3.2 IOB -> IOM
To avoid any vendor specific notational confusion the term Input-Output Blocks (IOB) will be redefined as Input-Output Modules (IOM)
Action Item(s):
Section 3.3
The Group then discussed in some detail the idea of an ISC_DONE bit, with topics including:
Following this discussion the group formulated and approved the following Motions.
Motion: ISC_DONE bit programmed
That the ISCDONE bit shall be programmed (set) via one of two methods
Motion By: Alan Herrmann
Second: Bradley Ishihara
The motion carried 7 - 1 - 0
Motion: ISCDONE Bit Cleared
That devices which require external control of the ISCDONE bit, shall have the ISCDONE bit erased (cleared) via one of the following 2 methods:
Motion By: Ken Parker
Second: Howard Tang
The motion carried 7 - 1 - 0
Motion: Internal Done bit control
Devices are allowed to manage the state of the ISCDONE bit without requiring external algorithmic control. (Setting and Clearing only)
Motion By: Brad Ishihara
Second: Mark Moyer
The motion passed 6 - 1 - 1
Motion: Reading the ISCDONE bit
The ISCDONE bit is read by examining
Motion By: Ken Parker
Second: Howard Tang
The Motion carried 5 - 1 - 2
Action Item: Neil
Neil will pursue concerns that the specification of an instruction register capture value violates the 1149.1
Figure 5-1
Ken Parker corrected figure 5-1 to allow for EXTEST in a non-programmed device.
Section 5-12
The group discussed the existence and placement of status bit(s). The following was agreed upon without a vote.
Action Item: Ken Parker
Section 6. ISC Data Registers
It was decided to remove any vendor specific meaning from the capture value of ISC_DATA registers.
Section 5.3.1 ISC_IDCODE Instruction
The reference to a 512 bit register will be removed. The length of this register is unspecified.
The ISC_IDCODE register will be defined as an optional register containing unspecified vendor specific information.
Motion: ISC_READINFO Instruction
That an optional ISC_READINFO instruction be permitted and targets a register of unspecified length.(ISCINFOREG). The contents of the register are valid only in ISC_ACCESSED mode. This register can be used to store ISC related information as described in section 5.3.1.
Motion By: Alan Herrmann
Second By: Steve Klinger
The motion carried 5-1-2
Spinning Plates.
With the apparent lack of a champion for Spinning Plates it is the group's opinion that the idea, while beneficial, will be put aside until a later time with the clear goal not to implement any prohibitive rules.
Motion : Removal of Spinning plates(Section 5.4) from the standard.
That section 4.5 be removed from the draft.
Motion By: Ted Eaton
Second By: Ken Parker
The motion carried 4 - 0 - 5
Action Item: Neil Jacobson
Due to the result of the previous motion Neil will:
Section 5.1.1.h
Motion: Maximum Burn Times
Permission to allow specification of a maximum duration for ISC device burn times.
Include note describing duration specification guidelines.
Motion By: Ken Parker
Second By: Alan Herrmann
The motion carried 7 - 0 - 2
Action Items: Ken Parker
Algorithmic Discussion (Programming Flow)
The group moved its focus to the definition of a generic flow that would allow for concurrent programming. As a starting point the group examined the email from Dave Bonnett which attempted to specify a generic flow. The following are the resulting motions and updates programming flow.
Motion: ISC_NOOP instruction
ISC_NOOP instruction which maps onto bypass or clamp instruction as appropriate for the implementation of ISC_ENABLE.
Motion By: Alan Herrmann
Second By: Mark Moyer
The motion carried 9 - 0 - 0
Motion: Post Instruction
A single "POST" instruction for all PGM, ERASE operations (DISCHARGE) .
Motion By: NOT NOTED
Second By: NOT NOTED
The motion carried 8 - 0 - 1
Action Item: Ken Parker
It follows from the previous motion that all other "PRE" and "POST" instructions will be removed.
ISC FLOW
Example of Programming Sequence (taken from email by Dave Bonnett)
Device 1: Type 1: Address and Data in Pairs. Device also requires a discharge(ISC_POST) instruction following each program instruction.
Device 2: Type 2: Initial Address followed by a sequence of data (auto Increment).
Device 3: Type 3: PDATA Register combines address and data.
| Device 3 Type 3 |
Device 2 Type 2 |
Device 1 Type 1 |
|
| 1. IRSCAN | ISCENABLE | ISCENABLE | ISCENABLE |
| 2. DRSCAN | ISCCONFIG | ISCCONFIG | ISCCONFIG |
| 3. RTI | wait x(config) | wait y(config) | wait z(config) |
| 4. IRSCAN | ISCNOOP | ISCADDRESSSHIFT | ISCADDRESSSHIFT |
| 5. DRSCAN | x | ISCADDRESS addr. |
ISCADDRESS addr. |
| 6. IRSCAN | ISCPROGRAM | ISCPROGRAM | ISCPROGRAM |
| 7. DRSCAN | ISCPDATA data and addr |
ISCPDATA data |
ISCPDATA data |
| 8. RTI | wait x(prog) | wait y(prog) | wait z(prog) |
| 9. IRSCAN | ISCNOOP | ISCNOOP | ISCPOST |
| 10. DRSCAN | X | X | ISCADDRESS addr. |
| 11. RTI | X | X | wait z(prog) |
| 12. IRSCAN | ISCNOOP | ISCNOOP | ISCADDRESSSHIFT |
| 13. DRSCAN | X | X | ISCADDRESS addr. |
| 14. IRSCAN | ISCPROGRAM | ISCPROGRAM | ISCPROGRAM |
| 15. DRSCAN | ISCPDATA data & addr |
ISCPDATA data |
ISCPDATA data |
| 16. RTI | wait x(prog) | wait y(prog) | wait z(prog) |
| 17. IRSCAN | ISCNOOP | ISCNOOP | ISCPOST |
| 18. DRSCAN | X | X | ISCPOSTDATA |
| 19. RTI | X | X | wait z(prog) |
| 20. Repeat until all devices are complete |
12 - 19 | 12 - 19 | 12 - 19 |
| 21. IRSCAN | ISCDISABLE | ISCDISABLE | ISCDISABLE |
| 22. RTI | wait x(disable) | wait y(disable) | wait z(disable) |
ISC FLOW
Example of Erasure Sequence (taken from email by Dave Bonnett)
Device 1: Type 1: Address and Data in Pairs. Device also requires a discharge(ISC_POST) instruction following each erase instruction.
Device 2: Type 2: Initial Address followed by a sequence of data (auto Increment).
Device 3: Type 3: PDATA Register combines address and data.
| Device 3 Type 3 |
Device 2 Type 2 |
Device 1 Type 1 |
|
| 1. IRSCAN | ISCENABLE | ISCENABLE | ISCENABLE |
| 2. DRSCAN | ISCCONFIG | ISCCONFIG | ISCCONFIG |
| 3. RTI | wait x(config) | wait y(config) | wait z(config) |
| 4. IRSCAN | ISCNOOP | ISCADDRESSSHIFT | ISCADDRESSSHIFT |
| 5. DRSCAN | x | ISCADDRESS addr. |
ISCADDRESS addr. |
| 6. IRSCAN | ISCERASE | ISCERASE | ISCERASE |
| 7. DRSCAN | ISCPDATA data and addr |
ISCPDATA data |
ISCPDATA data |
| 8. RTI | wait x(erase) | wait y(erase) | wait z(erase) |
| 9. IRSCAN | ISCNOOP | ISCNOOP | ISCPOST |
| 10. DRSCAN | X | X | ISCPOSTDATA |
| 11. RTI | X | X | wait z(POST) |
| 12. IRSCAN | ISCNOOP | ISCNOOP | ISCADDRESSSHIFT |
| 13. DRSCAN | X | X | ISCADDRESS addr. |
| 14. IRSCAN | ISCERASE | ISCERASE | ISCERASE |
| 15. DRSCAN | ISCPDATA data & addr |
ISCPDATA data |
ISCPDATA data |
| 16. RTI | wait x(erase) | wait y(erase) | wait z(erase) |
| 17. IRSCAN | ISCNOOP | ISCNOOP | ISCPOST |
| 18. DRSCAN | X | X | ISCPOSTDATA |
| 19. RTI | X | X | wait z(POST) |
| 20. Repeat until all devices are complete |
12 - 19 | 12 - 19 | 12 - 19 |
| 21. IRSCAN | ISCDISABLE | ISCDISABLE | ISCDISABLE |
| 22. RTI | wait x(disable) | wait y(disable) | wait z(disable) |
ISC FLOW
Example of Read Sequence (taken from email by Dave Bonnett)
NOTE: IN THE MEETING IT WAS DECIDED THAT ALL THAT WAS NEEDED TO IMPLEMENT A READ SEQUENCE WAS TO SWITCH THE RTI AND DRSCAN OPERATIONS OF THE READ CYCLE. IT IS UNCLEAR TO ME IF THIS WILL WORK FOR A DEVICE OF TYPE 1 GIVEN THAT THE ADDRESS TO BE ACCESSED IS NOT KNOWN UNTILL THE DRSCAN OPERATION?
Device 1: Type 1: Address and Data in Pairs
Device 2: Type 2: Initial Address followed by a sequence of data (auto Increment).
Device 3: Type 3: PDATA Register combines address and data.
| Device 3 Type 3 |
Device 2 Type 2 |
Device 1 Type 1 |
|
| 1. IRSCAN | ISCENABLE | ISCENABLE | ISCENABLE |
| 2. DRSCAN | ISCCONFIG | ISCCONFIG | ISCCONFIG |
| 3. RTI | wait x(config) | wait y(config) | wait z(config) |
| 4. IRSCAN | ISCNOOP | ISCADDRESSSHIFT | ISCADDRESSSHIFT |
| 5. DRSCAN | x | ISCADDRESS addr. |
ISCADDRESS addr. |
| 6. IRSCAN | ISCREAD | ISCREAD | ISCREAD |
| 7. RTI | wait x(read) | wait y(read) | wait z(read) |
| 8. DRSCAN | ISCPDATA data and addr |
ISCPDATA data |
ISCPDATA data |
| 12. IRSCAN | ISCNOOP | ISCNOOP | ISCADDRESSSHIFT |
| 13. DRSCAN | X | X | ISCADDRESS addr. |
| 14. IRSCAN | ISCREAD | ISCREAD | ISCREAD |
| 15. RTI | wait x(read) | wait y(read) | wait z(read) |
| 16. DRSCAN | ISCPDATA data & addr |
ISCPDATA data |
ISCPDATA data |
| 17. Repeat until all devices are complete |
12 - 16 | 12 - 16 | 12 - 16 |
| 18. IRSCAN | ISCDISABLE | ISCDISABLE | ISCDISABLE |
| 19. RTI | wait x(disable) | wait y(disable) | wait z(disable) |
Section 5.2.5.1.a
Change Rule (a) to indicate that only devices which "support electrical erasure" be required to implement ISC_ERASE instruction.
Permission (h) needs to be updated to allow for a status field.
Action Item: Alan Herrmann
Alan will investigate the acceptability of a read requirement for volatile devices.
Motion: Security Bits
That the ISCSECURITY bit shall be programmed(Set) via one of the two following methods :
Motion By: Brad Ishihara
Second By: Steve Klinger
The motion carried 8 - 0 - 0
Motion: Done Bit
That the done bit will be programmed(Set) after the security bit(s).
Motion By: Alan Herrmann
Second By: Yadvindra Dhami