Re: Rogaway's EME technology
Hi Doug:
Sorry about the delay in responding.
As the chair of the P1619 workgroup, I am copying the workgroup with my
reply so that it does not appear that I am negotiating privately with
you. Please respond copying the group. If anyone wants to add anything
to what I have said, please feel free to chime in.
First, I wish to bring to your attention IEEE patent policies which I
have attached in the form of a power point document. If, after reading
the document, you are willing to make a statement about your licensing
intentions in a form that fits this policy, we would be happy to accept
it.
I will respond with my personal feelings regarding your statement that
"IEEE members have an aversion to certain intellectual property
barriers". Speaking as an individual member of this work group with
experience in IEEE, ANSI and IETF standards committees, I personally do
not believe that there is a aversion to patented items in standards
where there are no clear alternatives. As an example, there are many
standards that include the RSA and D-H patents. I would suggest a
general statement "if patents can be avoided in a standard they should
be avoided, if patents can not be avoided, then they should not be
avoided" says it for me. The IEEE statement in the document is that
"IEEE standards may include the known use of essential patents" is
similar if you note the word "essential". Again, this is my personal
criteria, not that of the entire group.
The current state of P1619 work is that another member has brought to
our attention a competing solution to our problem that may meet our
needs. Their claim that this solution is not patent encumbered.
Clearly, we must give that proposal a fair hearing.
As a workgroup we must give you an opportunity to make a statement
(within the patent policy) which we will take into consideration when
we weigh both of these solutions against our needs. It may turn out
that EME is indeed the right technology to use, but that decision has
not been made.
I realize this sounds cold, but these are the facts.
I look forward to your response.
Thanks
jim
On Jun 17, 2004, at 12:38 PM, Doug Crawford wrote:
Dear Jim,
Phil Rogaway has developed an EME technology that the University of
California has patented and I am managing his case.
Phil has mentioned that it would be very useful for this technology to
become an IEEE standard, however the IEEE members have an aversion to
certain intellectual property barriers.
I would like to learn from you what the IEEE membership views as
barriers
and how we could possibly create a licensing scenario that works well
for
all parties.
Please call me at your convenience at my direct line listed below.
Best regards,
Doug Crawford
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Doug Crawford
Licensing Officer
University of California
Office of Technology Transfer
1111 Franklin Street, 5th Floor
Oakland, CA 94607-5200
Direct Line: (510) 587-6035
Main Number: (510) 587-6000
Fax: (510) 587-6090
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