Re: P1619: Errors happen

[james hughes <jphughes@xxxxxxx>]

I am truly saddened by this event on many levels.

I want to reiterate that anyone using this email reflector to  
publicly besmirch the reputation of any other member of this group  
will not be tolerated.

On May 29, 2006, at 9:46 AM, laszlo@HARS.US wrote:
> Publishing email addresses looks like a cheap way to silence  
> someone in the reflector: the spammers do the dirty work for free.

I read this as an inappropriate, public and undeserved attack on  
Shai's (and indirectly IBM's) reputation. I personally find Shai as  
an honest hard working person that is going out of his way to help  
with this process. If, for a minute, you think that Shai, for some  
unknown reason is an adversary, I suggest there are better means of  
being effective than public accusations like this.

> Could you please, once again, let someone edit the archived emails  
> in the reflector?

I do not think I should. If you really want me to recommend that IEEE  
make one last deletion, I will consider this one last time. Please  
reply off this list.

> Would it be possible to install a filter, which automatically  
> blinds email addresses in messages posted to the reflector?

This reflector makes a reasonable attempt to blind email addresses.  
If this is not adequate, I suggest you get and use an throw away  
email address in case these things happen again. All of my employers  
for the last 25 years have offered such email addresses. Since -many  
IEEE working groups use this service, it seems naive to think they  
will make these changes just for us.


In conclusion, I would suggest that people that agree with your  
issues help explain this to the rest of the members. Eric Hibbard has  
graciously acted to shepherd for all the issues so that they get  
resolved. Recently, Landon has helped explain your email with a  
positive outcome. I am looking forward to following that process.

Because of the communications that I have received on this subject  
stating that they felt your email was a personal attack on Shai I  
have sent this email to the entire list and to the archive. If you  
want to continue this discussion, take it off the reflector and  
continue the discussion with Jack, Curtis (P1619 sponsors) as well as  
Serge and myself.

Jim