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Re: [STDS-P1619] IEEE 1619 XTS submission to NIST for consideration as an Approved Mode of Operation, and Call for Sponsors

I agree with Jim. I believe that NIST will just take the IEEE doc for information and then write their own "compatible" doc in their own format. So it's not really a copyright issue, as I see it. I'm quite sure that, when we designed and wrote up the CCM algorithm for 802.11i (WiFi), there was no charge when NIST wanted to make that a standard. Seems like there must be a way for NIST to do this for free.
 
I spent a bunch of my time working on this effort to help out, and I allowed IEEE to use my example source code for free in the doc. Otherwise I'm not inclined to spend any more time participating in future IEEE standards.
 
From: James Hughes [jphughes@MAC.COM]
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 3:04 AM
To: STDS-P1619@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [STDS-P1619] IEEE 1619 XTS submission to NIST for consideration as an Approved Mode of Operation, and Call for Sponsors

I personally find this extortion abhorent. The use of a standard as a standard is what the IEEE standards orgnization is about. NIST is NOT going to profit from this. The only profit will be IEEE who's stature as a relevant standards creation organization will be heightened. I feel that this is being charged because the companes involved can afford it, not became it is right. I personally feel ashamed. Please, when you present your case state my opinion as an Sr IEEE member, conference organizer and TC Chair. 


On Feb 22, 2008, at 3:50 PM, Matt Ball <matt.ball@IEEE.ORG> wrote:

Hi All,

Here's the latest update on submitting XTS-AES to NIST:

Right now Jack Cole and I are working with IEEE-SA to ask for a copyright release on the portion of IEEE 1619 (approved last December) that describes the XTS-AES cryptographic mode of operation.  We would like to submit XTS to NIST for consideration as an Approved Mode of Operation for FIPS 140-2 certification.  Serge Plotkin has offered to write up such a proposal.

Sun Microsystems is sponsoring me to fly out to Piscataway, NJ during the IEEE standards board meeting (March 26-27) to discuss terms for releasing the copyright during NIST' public review period for XTS.

IEEE is unlikely to do this for free.  I don't know what the final price will be, but it will likely be in the range of $10k - $40k.  For this reason, I ask that all of you who benefit from the approval of IEEE 1619 XTS to please consider donating a few thousand dollars to help IEEE 1619 gain acceptance by NIST for FIPS 140-2.  Such acceptance would be highly strategic for many encryption products.

Please let me know if your company is able to contribute to the copyright release of XTS.  I'll need to know before March 26th, which gives you a month or so to check budgets.  Contributions would be collect in April, so this will likely come from next quarter's budget. :)

Please let me know if you have any questions, and I thank you for your support!

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Thanks!
Matt Ball, IEEE P1619.x SISWG Chair
M.V. Ball Technical Consulting, Inc.
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