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Re: [STDS-P1619] Decision to switch SISWG to corporate-based voting / IEEE corporate members list



Not hardly – corporate dues range from $1100 to $5500 per year – see http://standards.ieee.org/sa-mem/corp_overview.html However, depending on the level of corporate membership, you do get either 2, 6 or 10 free individual memberships in the IEEE-SA.

 

The individual/corporate voting conundrum is pretty common – as Eric points out, it’s usually done to keep a single organization from wielding too much ballot power in the activities of the organization.  The way we dealt with it in another organization was to designate one voting member from each organization with others from the same organizations serving as observers (they could fully participate in all activities except voting).

 

Best regards.

Richard Austin, MS, CISSP

"From the character, the institutions, the situation and the circumstances of the adversary, each side will draw its conclusions, in accordance with the laws of probability, as to what the actions of the other will be and determine its own accordingly."

-- Carl Von Clausewitz. On War

 

From: James Hughes [mailto:jphughes@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 10:38 PM
To: STDS-P1619@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-P1619] Decision to switch SISWG to corporate-based voting / IEEE corporate members list

 

Stupid question from out of the blue... 

 

If you pick corporate-method, can you choose not to have dues?

 

Jim

 

On Jul 1, 2009, at 4:51 PM, Eric Hibbard wrote:



Dave,

 

The short answer is that we are about half way between the individual-method and the corporate-method in the way we handle voting membership, and IEEE-SA is insisting that we pick a method and live with it (no hybrids). We got to this point because there was concern that one or more entities could/would dominate the voting by sending many participants, with each being able to vote.

 

-Eric

 

From: David Peterson [mailto:dpeterso@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 4:23 PM
To: STDS-P1619@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-P1619] Decision to switch SISWG to corporate-based voting / IEEE corporate members list

 

What is the reasoning for changing to something other than an individual-based membership?

 

…Dave

 

From: Matt Ball [mailto:matthew.v.ball@xxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:31 PM
To: STDS-P1619@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-P1619] Decision to switch SISWG to corporate-based voting / IEEE corporate members list

 

Just to be clear, this motion was made not because the movers are necessarily in favor of it, but that it would be the action that would change the status quo (conversely, a motion to keep the voting as 'individual' would have no effect if it passed or failed).  If this motion fails, then we'll stay as an 'Individual' working group, and adjust the operating procedures accordingly to better match the new baseline procedures.

Along these lines, Eric Hibbard has created an operating procedures proposal for individual (not corporate) voting.  See:

https://siswg.net/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_download&gid=189&Itemid=41

(changes from the baseline procedures are highlighted)

I've added discussion of this proposal to the agenda for the July 15th meeting.  If the group decides to move to 'Corporate' voting, we'll need to figure out those Operating Procedures, and change all the PARS.

Thanks,
-Matt

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Jack Cole <jack.cole@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

You might talk with James Borden, Daniel Goodman of the 1667 group, which is entity based, has been from inception. At times 1667 has considered going to individual-based membership. I have not heard that recently, but you can get their perspective on being an entity-based group. One particularly irritating aspect for me personally has been that, even as sponsor chair, I could not vote in 1667 balloting. 

 

"James Borden" <James.Borden@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, 1667 chair

"Daniel Goodman" <daniel.goodman@xxxxxxxx>, 1667 secretary

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Matt Ball <Matthew.Ball@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Folks,

In today's meeting, we tabled a motion to switch SISWG from individual-based membership to corporate-based membership.  We'll hear this motion again at the next meeting on July 15th.  To help you make your decision of Individual vs. Corporate membership, here are some links.  I've also attached a list of IEEE-SA corporate members, as of June 2009.

If we stay with individual membership, there will be no fees for participating in SISWG.  If we switch to corporate membership, then the fees range from $1100 to $5500 per year, depending on company size.  If you're company is already on the attached list, then you wouldn't need to pay any extra.

Links:

I know Eric was about ready to hop on a plane, so I wanted to get these out for review now...

Let me know if I missed anything or if you have any questions!

Cheers,
-Matt

 

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