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Re: [2600] proposed new text for PP guide discussion of FMT_MSA.3



Yes, it is common that a normal user can change their own password, but
it would be really unusual for a normal user to be able to change the
default password that is assigned when new user accounts are created.

FMT_MSA.3 is about specifying *alternative initial values to override
the default values when an object or information is created*. So I don't
think we should provide an example of normal users setting new default
values of security attributes.

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Regards,
Brian Smithson
PM, Security Research
PMP, CSM, CISSP, CISA, ISO 27000 PA
Advanced Imaging and Network Technologies
Ricoh Americas Corporation
(408)346-4435



Sukert, Alan wrote:
>
> Jerry Thrasher had the same suggestion. I’m working on the wording for
> it that I’ll send out for review next week.
>
> Alan
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> *From:* Don Wright [mailto:don@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> *Sent:* Friday, August 07, 2009 9:05 AM
> *To:* STDS-2600@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* Re: [2600] proposed new text for PP guide discussion of
> FMT_MSA.3
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> Would it hurt to provide a concrete example?  For instance, it is
> common that a normal user is allowed to change his own password.
>  Wouldn't that be a clearly understandable delegation to U.NORMAL by
> U.ADMINISTRATOR?
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> 08/06/2009 06:53 PM
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>         Subject:        [2600] proposed new text for PP guide
> discussion of FMT_MSA.3
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> During the most recent P2600 meeting, we left an action item open to
> gather more input from Canon and consider other changes to clause 6.6,
> page 54, lines 33-44. Canon has supplied more information. I propose
> that we replace lines 33-44 with the following text:
>
>    "FMT_MSA.3.2(a) allows an authorized role to alter the default
>    attribute values when an object or information is created.
>    Typically, either U.ADMINISTRATOR or Nobody will be allowed to alter
>    default attribute values. It is possible in some implementations
>    that a U.NORMAL will be allowed to alter default attribute values
>    associated with some of their own data, and such allowance should be
>    specified carefully so that access control is not compromised."
>
> Keeping in mind that FMT_MSA.3.2 deals with permission to alter the
> /default/ attribute values, I think that the most typical cases will be
> that either U.ADMINISTRATOR is allowed or Nobody is allowed. Therefore,
> I don't think we should spend much time on an unusual case in which a
> normal user is allowed to change defaults on some attributes.
>
> -- 
> Regards,
> Brian Smithson
> PM, Security Research
> PMP, CSM, CISSP, CISA, ISO 27000 PA
> Advanced Imaging and Network Technologies
> Ricoh Americas Corporation
> (408)346-4435
>