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Re: NO BID



        Thank you Jim.  I will forward your comments to the mail
        reflector.  I appreciate your comments on this issue.
        Especially that you have the agreement of your BOD.  It
        shows a degree of consideration that is itself to be
        commended.  Your vote will be included in the count.  - Dan Zuras


Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 16:22:22 -0700
From: Jim Michael <jim_michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: NO  BID
To: 754r@xxxxxxxxxxx, 'Dan Zuras' <r754@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: MFC@xxxxxxxxxx, 'Bob Davis' <bob@xxxxxxxx>,
        wkahan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, 'Bill Klein' <wmklein@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
        'Tom Ross' <tmross@xxxxxxxxxx>, 'Deb Carnes' <deb.carnes@xxxxxxxxxx>,
        "'Rosen, Robert (NIH/NIAMS)'" <rosenr@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

To the Chairman and members of the IEEE 754 revision working group,

After considering the issue of revisions to IEEE 754 that your group is
pursuing, the Board of Directors of SHARE has asked that I extend our
previous letter commenting on the proposed revisions so as to register a
"No" vote on this issue.  Our intent in taking this action is to communicate
the opposition of SHARE to the proposed amendment to the standard,
especially as regards modifications to the hardware encoding specifications
in the current draft.

I have included a copy of our earlier comments below for your convenience
and in an effort to convey the "minimum changes in content required to
convert the NO to a YES" as requested in your balloting procedure.

While we oppose the proposed revisions to the hardware encoding
specifications, the SHARE organization wishes to commend those in the
working group on their ongoing efforts towards bringing the current
specification to completion and approval in the timeliest manner possible.

As I do not have access to the IEEE 754 mail reflector at stds-754@xxxxxxxx,
I would appreciate you assistance in forwarding a copy of this message to
that list.  

Please direct any correspondence with regard to this vote to me at the
address below.

Respectfully,

James D. Michael
Secretary, SHARE, Inc.
e-mail: jim_michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

N.B. - I have used information provided to me with regard to your voting
procedures as documented at http://754r.ucbtest.org/ballots/bid.htm.  Please
let me know if there are additional steps that I should take to register
this vote.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Michael [mailto:jim_michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 8:05 AM
To: 'Dan Zuras'
Cc: 'Bob Davis'; 'IEEE 754 mail reflector'; 'Deb Carnes'; 'Rosen, Robert
(NIH/NIAMS)'
Subject: SHARE Comments Regarding Revision to IEEE 754-1985

To the Chairman and members of the IEEE 754 revision working group,
As you may know, SHARE is an independent computer user's group founded in
1955 which now has a membership of more than 2,000 organizations.
Collectively, these organizations -- and SHARE -- represent more than 20,000
individual computing specialists.  Our constituency includes many of the top
international corporations (including the majority of the FORTUNE 500),
universities and colleges, municipal through federal government
organizations, and industry-leading consultants.
The SHARE organization wishes to commend those in the working group on their
ongoing development efforts in providing a revision to IEEE 754-1985 that
will include support for a decimal floating point data type and the rules
related to its use.  The portability of data and reproducibility of results
for such data is and will continue to be of great interest to many of our
member installations. However, we have recently become aware that certain
issues that previously appeared to be resolved (stabilized) are now being
reopened with minimal or no consensus that there is any defect in the
current draft proposals that needs modification.  Most notably this applies
to the requirement for and the specification of a single hardware encoding
for each decimal floating point data size.
SHARE understands the need for a well defined specification whose data
storage and data manipulation can be implemented on many hardware platforms
and accessed through various software applications - and that this must be
demonstrably possible via efficient and portable methods (whether in
hardware or software).
SHARE has seen no evidence presented to the working group that this is not
possible with the hardware encoding specifications in the current draft and
suggests that unless a consensus that there is a problem to be fixed is
reached within the working group, that its resources and time should be
spent on:
  -- correcting any identified (and commonly agreed upon) defects
  -- clarifying ambiguities (if any) in the current specification
  -- filling any omissions (that cannot be addressed in future
specifications).
In conclusion, SHARE sees no compelling reason to modify the hardware
encoding specifications in the current draft and does see a compelling
reason for the working group to progress the current specification to
completion and approval in the most timely manner possible.  Please finish
the work you have begun so well and provide the world with an approved
revision as soon as possible.

--
James D. Michael
Secretary, SHARE, Inc.
e-mail: jim_michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

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