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RE: [Stds-754] Motion for Thursday's meeting
I did not vote for it, nor did anyone else.
We voted to request the MSC to form a balloting body to be prepared for
a draft we would submit in October. So, we still need to submit the
draft, which my motion is about. And we need a 2/3 supermajority. If we
don't pass such a motion, I don't see that we have submitted anything to
the MSC.
28 of us voted for agenda item 11, captured in the minutes as:
11. Motion: (Bob Davis) That we request of the MSC at the July
meeting to form a balloting body to be prepared for the
draft that this committee will submit in October for
balloting.
John Crawford
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Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 12:12 PM
To: Crawford, John H
Cc: stds-754@xxxxxxxx; stds-754@xxxxxxxxxxx; r754@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Stds-754] Motion for Thursday's meeting
I am seeking a ruling from Bob on whether you are allowed to
propose this motion or not since you are on record as having
voted for it last time. (Note that Prof Kahan is also on
record as having voted for it which qualifies him to propose
a motion to reverse that decision.) For now, I will put it
down as a proposed amendment to the agenda like the others. -
Dan
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 11:21:05 -0700
From: "Crawford, John H" <john.h.crawford@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <stds-754@xxxxxxxxxxx>, <stds-754@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Stds-754] Motion for Thursday's meeting
I would like to submit the following motion:=20
Submit the version 1.2.1 draft, possibly modified by non-substantive
style review edits, to the MSC as the proposed text for the sponsor
ballot.
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RATIONALE:
There was a vibrant discussion at the last meeting regarding the need
for a final vote to send our draft to the MSC. One position was that
we
need to have such a vote, with a 2/3 super-majority, at the 9/21
meeting
in order to formally recommend a specific draft to the MSC; the other
position was that we had that vote in June when agenda item 11 was
passed by a vote of 28-2 to send the draft as it would exist in
September to the MSC.
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I think that we should have such a vote to formally close the issue
and
send up the draft. My review of the June minutes indicates that we did
not in fact accomplish this vote, based on the text of the revised
motion which we voted on at the Thursday meeting. From the archives...
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From the June meeting minutes:
The Wednesday minutes include the following text:
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11. Motion: (Bob Davis) Shall we recommend to the MSC (today)
that
they accept the draft (as it will exist at the end of
the
September meeting) as our proposed text for sponsor
ballot?
(Bob has agreed to have consideration of this motion postponed
until
the end of the day.)
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At 4:30 Bob Davis moved, Peter Markstein seconded.
Discussion. Jim offered motion to table for 24 hours,
John Harrison seconded.
Motion was tabled 16-10-4.
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Bob Davis sent a revised Motion 11 early Thursday morning (12:59 AM):
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From: stds-754-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:stds-754-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of bob
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 12:59 AM
To: 'David Hough 754R work'; stds-754@xxxxxxxx; stds-754@xxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Bob.Davis@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Stds-754] proposed order of motions for June 22
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Motion 19:
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Add the following text to the W annex.
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... text of Motion 19 deleted ...
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Motion 11: Refined
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This committee requests the MSC(Sponsor) at the July 10, 2006 meeting,
to form a Sponsor Balloting Body through the IEEE SA MyBallot process
for the Draft P754R Document to be ready for Sponsor Ballot at the
October 9, 2006 meeting of the MSC.
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Respectfully,=20
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Bob Davis
Member IEEE P754 Working Group
Chairman Microprocessor Standards Committee Member AudCom, Past Member
IEEE SA Standard Board Summit Computer Systems, Inc.=20
22685 Summit Road, Los Gatos, CA 95033-9310 bob@xxxxxxxx
408.353.2706 Desk use cell
408.857.1273 Cell
408.353.8116 Fax=20
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But the vote on the motion occurred on Thursday, with minutes as
follows:
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11. Motion: (Bob Davis) That we request of the MSC at the July
meeting to form a balloting body to be prepared for the
draft that this committee will submit in October for
balloting.
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At 2:11 Bob Davis moved, Dave James seconded.
Discussion.
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The vote was:
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In favor (28):
Steven Carlough, John Crawford, Marius Cornea,
Mike Cowlishaw, Joe Darcy, Bob Davis, Mark
Davis, Mark Erle, J.P. Fasano, Alex Fit-Florea,
Ivan Godard, Roger Golliver, Michel Hack, John
Harrison, David James, Jeff Kidder, Alex Liu,
Peter Markstein, Nobuyoshi Mori, Jon Okada,
Eric
Postpischil, Eric Schwarz, Ron Smith, Peter
Tang, Pamela Taylor, Jim Thomas, Charles Tsen,
&
Fred Zemke
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Against (1):
David Hough
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Motion passed 28-1-0.
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Our bylaws state that this vote is one of the few that need a
super-majority of 2/3:
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9.1 Actions Requiring Approval by Two-Thirds of the Voting Working
Group
Membership
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The following actions require an electronic ballot or an equivalent
formal
recorded vote with approval by at least two-thirds of the voting
members
of the working group, (provided that notification of the action has
been
included on the distributed agenda for the meeting):
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1) Approval of change of the working group scope
2) Approval of termination of the working group
3) Establishment of fees
4) Removal of a working group officer (see clause 6.3)
5) Approval to move the draft standards project to the Sponsor
for
IEEE
Standards Sponsor ballot
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These actions are subject to confirmation by the Sponsor.