RE: [10GBASE-T] channel model
The issues that I see in determining the frequency range of the channel characterization are:
1) The ability to make accurate high frequency measurements and to validate the results among multiple independent cable vendors. This suggests a lower frequency range.
2) The frequency range must be the same for all types of measurements (line as well as crosstalk measurements). So, although accurate higher frequency channel measurements may be possible, our experience has been that FEXT is the most challenging. This can limit the frequency range more.
3) Flexibility to perform system tradeoffs suggests a higher frequency range.
Based on these considerations, I propose the characterization of all measurements (line and crosstalk) be
from DC to 500 MHz.
Chair Modeling Ad Hoc
William W. Jones, Ph.D.
Director of Systems Engineering
SolarFlare Communications, Inc.
949-581-6830, ext. 2550
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Subject: Re: [10GBASE-T] channel model
Thanks for getting this started.
Your contribution addresses (at least) three significant elements of the
channel model development:
1. frequency range of channel characterization
2. the use of temperature dependent transmission models
3.proposed model limits (with supporting measurement data)
We should try to reach consensus on the elements.
1. The modeling ad hoc should reach a consensus on the frequency range of
Note:We should limit the channel characterization to account for relevant
signal spectrum and
minimize excess bandwidth characterization.
2. The 10GBASE-T study group should reach consensus on temperature
dependencies (in the objectives?).
3. I'm in the process of developing a straw proposal for the cabling ad hoc
the generation of measurement data. Note: We need the resolution of the
frequency range of channel
Chair Cabling Ad Hoc
In a message dated 1/29/03 1:33:04 AM Eastern Standard Time,
<< Attached is a proposed 100 meter Cat 5e channel model for 10GBaseT study
(CHANMOD.TXT). This model is defined by complex-valued (X + jY format)
insertion gain in the at 500 kHz intervals from DC to 1 GHz.
The proposed model is derived from measurement (at 20 C) of a 100 meter
channel (with Cat 5e patch cords and 4 Cat 5e RJ45 connector interfaces).
The baseline 100 meter channel model was temperature corrected to 50 C. (122
F.) using the procedure defined in ASTM D4566 Section 26.4. The above
mentioned temperature correction method modifies the magnitude but not the
phase of the insertion loss. Experimental measurements confirm that
temperature effects on the phase are minimal so the approximation is
The most recent proposed model is an extrapolation of the ISO 11801 Class D
channel loss limit. The ISO 11801 Class D limit is designed to accommodate
expected worst-case measurements below 100 MHz and consequently includes some
additional margin to meet this requirement. Since this limit is only
specified below 100 MHz, extrapolation of the limit through smooth curve
fitting becomes less accurate as it is extended farther beyond its defined
boundaries. The new proposed model is based upon measurements beyond 500 MHz
and thus validated to at least 500 MHz (and somewhat beyond 500 MHz). As
shown in the attached graphs (CHANMOD.DOC), the insertion loss for the
proposed model differs from the ISO 11801 Class D 2002 channel limit by less
than 0.2 dB from DC to 50 MHz and less than 0.5 dB from 50 to 100 MHz. While
it does not represent an absolute worst-case channel, it represents a
reasonable model for a feasibility study simulating a maximum length channel
under worst-case temperature conditions.