Dan,
I understand the issue pointed out in your mail on EMI. It
is one of our further study points for improvement.
Now, I would like to ask your “Dove test”.
As far as I understand, you are proposing to have “Dove
test” for the PAM8 and 12 comparisons. This test may be used as a field test as
well if it ends up with a simple test.
In anyway, the noise pulses are,
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Randomly spaced transient impulses
of a finite amplitude noise 1~20mV,
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The noise spacing is randomly spaced
but the average mean spacing is 14 ~ 20ms (50~70Hz),
And you mentioned that you could get a spectral content of
those pulses. I think that is very helpful and key data for the comparison of
PAM8 and 12 in terms of the “EXTERNAL NOISE” immunity.
Please, get that for us. Thanks.
Hiroshi Takatori
Keyeye Communications, Inc.
From:
stds-802-3-10gbt@IEEE.ORG [mailto:stds-802-3-10gbt@IEEE.ORG] On Behalf Of Dove, Dan
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004
10:01 AM
To:
STDS-802-3-10GBT@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: Re: [10GBT] Request for
Cat6 Emissions Characteristics
Hi Jose, All;
I agree that EMI characteristics of UTP
"as a general rule" increase with frequency but I don't think its as
easy as applying a simple 20log10(f) curve to the PSD. Depending on cable
geometries, ground plane and component balance, the performance of a cable
plant will most likely not have such a smooth function.
Therefore, its not quite so easy to say
that PAM12 is better than PAM8 based strictly upon Jose's assertion. If you
look at the figure below, you will see that PAM12 is higher in the range from
100MHz to 180MHz and both are above 1000BASE-T's spectrum in that region.
The FCC/CISPR don't really care if you
pass their specs at 600MHz if you are failing at 180MHz.
Rather than drive a conclusion from this
data, one expects the rational approach would be to determine this is an issue
that requires attention/resolution prior to making *any* selection. Maybe the
problem is not which PAM to use, but which cable to use? (FTP/STP?)
I will be investigating whether my
employer will support some research into this area. I have access to a 10m
chamber and think it would be a worthwhile investigation.
Thanks to Sailesh Rao and Vivek Telang for
providing the data for this graph.
Regards,
Dan
