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Re: [10GMMF] TP3 meeting Agenda Oct 19

Some thoughts about the jitter (tolerance) discussion today -
  1. The channel will cause channel jitter but not transmitter jitter. Channel jitter will be more or less linear and correctable.
  2. I believe there will be components of transmitter jitter that are not correctable, either because they are non-linear or because they will have a wider (than sine) spectrum that is asynchronous to the data. At least, the latter transmitter jitter will combine incoherently with channel jitter and so must be considered.
  3. What an EDC system does with sine jitter is a good question. I suspect it will try to reduce its impact in some way as a tradeoff against ISI and other noises. Sine jitter is not "natural" jitter, and so if it causes an EDC system to adjust in an unnatural way, it is probably not a good choice. That "if" should be answered by someone other than me. If EDC does not adjust in response to sine jitter, then I feel it's an acceptable choice because of relative simplicity and history.
  4. OIF's CEI uses jitter generated by a phase-modulating PRBS source to represent a transmitter for tolerance testing. The PRBS output is filtered in a way that softens the pdf into something between uniform to semi-normal, but yet it is clearly bounded. The pattern is short enough, and its rate fast enough that the resulting jitter spectrum is fairly broadband and above the tracking frequency (it is high-frequency jitter). Fibre Channel already does, and XFP is considering, using PRBS jitter also. I am not necessarily recommending PRBS jitter (although it does have good merit and is not much more complex than sine jitter), just pointing out what other groups have done or are doing.
  5. I am in support of Lew's thought that if "other" high-frequency jitter already exists, it can reduce requirements for jitter to be added, details TBD.
  6. See XFP and CEI serdes/CDR specs for previous jitter values to consider.
Thanks, Tom
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 9:19 AM
Subject: [10GMMF] TP3 meeting Agenda Oct 19

Dear TP3'ers,

Here is the agenda for tomorrows meeting:-

Tuesday October 19th at 9am SJ, 5pm UK, 6pm Germany
Dial in (650) 599-0374, Meeting ID:     136169

        1. List Attendees
        2. Review meeting notes from last week
        3. Review Lew's additional motions (which were not heard at Ottawa). These were forwarded by Lew last week.
        4. TP2/TP3 link budget work. Tom Lindsay's Feedback from TP2 call

Upcoming items of focus (for subsequent metings):-
        i) Static channel methodology
                - noise loading
                - channel types and exact characteristics
                        o i.e. do we pick pre, post cursor and quasi symmetric and if so where from? 108 fiber model?
      ii) OMA measurement methodology.

Best Regards