Proposed status on assigned comments.
Topic for today's TP2 call.
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Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 5:03
Subject: [10GMMF] Comment discussions on
TP2 call 1/13/05
Per the 1/13 TP2 meeting minutes, we discussed related D1.0
Nick asked if we could pre-resolve some comments relating to TP2.
The comment list is in the agenda. All
comments were discussed.
A separate email will attempt to capture
Discussions: (note - there are some of
the secretary's subsequent opinions added below, preceded with "TL -").
Comment 49 & 50
No disagreement that overshoot masks should
be relaxed. Lew was not on call to present his view that overshoot masks
should be eliminated, so final value decision was deferred. Plan to
discuss next week.
Agree on value? 0.75?
Re-raised concern that absolute overshoot
power may need to be limited for Rx linearity. No specific proposals were
given, and no specific comment was submitted, so this is a potential
Comment 81 & 83
Recalled that prbs pattern is for component
level testing. Normative test will use a subpattern from AnAi or
Agreed that final prbs pattern must be
better defined, preferably referencable through another standard.
Agreed that final prbs pattern should be
convenient, preferable built-into pattern generators.
- It is understood that prbs7 is probably not adequate, but more work is
required to determine the best option. Work is planned (see TP2 notes).
Discussion about insertion of extra zero to
balance prbs pattern not conclusive.
Agilent has reported that
"zero-insertion" is standard on new equipment.
Idea was raised to insert long(er) runs of
1's and 0's into pattern to stress lower frequency impairments. Not
Plan to discuss again next week.
non inverting. Lew - what is ITU reference? Use this for instances for a
call-out of the prbs pattern (comment 111, etc.).
Okay. Waiting to discuss MATLAB code 1/20
on TP2 call. Editorial format for the code, including scope of comments,
should follow precedence of other standards (clause 40). TL - clause 40
appears to have minimal comments.
Review on TP2 call
1/20. TAL has submitted presentation for background, hope for support of
- Comment 111
- Okay, but final pattern is TBD.
- Comment 107
Spirit of comment is good.
Need noise <<N0 of simulated Rx white
Jan Peeters Weem to test effect of
noise in lab and run through MATLAB code, report on 1/20 call.
- TL - some follow-on discussion are occurring with good progress.
Expect to conclude next week. A recommended # of averages value
may be given, leaving an actual number of averages up to the
- Propose "Averaging should be used to avoid a
pessimistic estimate of TWDP."
Okay. Crosstalk from asynchronous Rx should
be removed by averaging, so requirement for simultaneous operation should
not be not necessary.
Propose accept, but
propose duplex operation should occur during RIN test.
TL - so does crosstalk get measured in RIN
Okay. Location and format of the
informative section not clear. Editor's preference, but should follow
precedence of other standards, perhaps clause 40. Comment suggest
appendix, since body of standard should focus on normative material.
Propose accept, but
does editor need more guidance?
Please respond if I
errored in recording these comment discussions.