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Re: Hari




Paul,

If by a signal you mean a symbol sent every so often, in-band, then
it works. Needs some buffering to smooth the "every so often" effect
at Gigabit speeds, but what are few kbytes between friends :).

If by a signal you really mean a galvanic conductor running along
Hari, well, I have a bias against that.



Ariel


PS: I apologize for breaking the moratorium on Hari discussion.
What was the punishment?  20 push-ups at the next plennary? 



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> Ariel:
> 
> Hari can easily be adapted to the same word-by-word pacing mechanism we
> proposed for the XGMII. This mechanism adds a signal to Hari which is used
> to request the insertion of NULL control words. When pacing from PMD to
> Hari NULL control works can be inserted.
> 
> Hari has no bias toward open loop pacing.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Paul
> 
> At 01:46 PM 11/25/99 -0800, Ariel Hendel wrote:
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> >> Rich,
> >> 
> >> As a XGMII, replacing the parallel GMII, Hari would be in place to
> directly interface
> >> between the MAC and PCS.  As an interconnect between the PMA and the
> PMD, Hari adds
> >> additional code translations, jitter, and inherent delay between any
> pacing function at
> >> the PMD level PCS and the MAC.  
> >
> >There can be no better example than Hari for the wisdom of the open loop
> pacing
> >solution at the MAC (as opposed to tightly coupled feedback schemes).
> >
> >Open loop pacing and Hari, made for each other...
> >
> >
> >Ariel Hendel
> >Sun
> >
> >
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