One of the objectives of the 802.3ae is to "Support fiber media 
selected from the second edition of ISO/IEC 11801 (802.3 to work with SC25/WG3 
to develop appropriate specifications for any new fiber media)" as stated in the 
HSSG Objectives Part 2 and as it was the case in the development of the 
802.3z. Being a long time attendee and a US TAG F/O expert to the 
SC25/WG3 I'd like to share with you the F/O connector status at the TO 
(Telecommunication Outlet or simply Wall Plate where the equipment plugs 
in) within various premises cabling standards.
  - ISO/IEC WG3 11801 - International Premises Cabling 
  Standard
 
        2-nd edition of the 11801 
draft standard scheduled for completion first quarter of 2001 specifies at the 
TO duplex SC only. It allows use of the SFF (Small Form     
            Factor) connectors 
anywhere else for as long as: a) they are standardized by the IEC 
86B and b) are of the RJ-45 outline at the TO.
  - EN 50173 (2000): Information technology - 
  European Generic Cabling Systems Standard
 
        Draft EN 50173 scheduled 
for completion first half of 2001 follows the ISO/IEC 11801. Duplex SC at 
the TO with SFF as alternate for high density application's.
        Specifies duplex SC and 
any of the SFF connector's documented by the TIA/EIA FOCIS (Fiber Optic 
Connector Intermateability Standard)
Furthermore I'd like to make an observation that in case of 
copper media we do have a present 17 different connector options including: UTP 
(8 possible connectors based on the performance category 3, 
5, 5e, 6 and physical wiring of T568A and T568B; ScTP (8 possible 
connectors) and a Data Connector. Category seven 
not counted yet but there are two to four more options at present. I don't 
know how but it works.
Based on the above I do suggest to leave the connector 
issue to the users.
Hope this 
helps to further clarify our work focus.
Regards,
Tad
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  Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 10:48 
  AM
  Subject: Optical Connectors
  
  I have opened this thread to continue the 
  discussion on optical connectors. So far (what has come into my reader), we 
  have the following comments:
   
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  "Bill Wiedemann: Regarding 850CWDM we are 
  planning to make first implementations with duplex SC moving to LC with small 
  form factors. Our expectation is that small form factor with LC could be 
  available a year from today. "
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  "Jim Tatum: I would assume that 802.3ae 
  would do the same as 802.3z, and NOT specify conectors. "
  -----------------------
  "Ed Chang: There are so many different 
  form factors, and connectors, which even the GbE and Fibre Channel market can 
  not get consensus."
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  If we review the 802.3 Ethernet 
  specification, we see that we have identified connectors for each variant (I 
  don't remember an exception). For example:
  7.6.2 AUI Configuration cable
  9.9.5.2 Optical for repeaters
  ...
  38.11.3 MDI = Duplex SC for GigE 
  Optics
  39.5.1 MDI = Style 1 (DB9) and Style 2 for 
  GigE Cu
   
  While I remember no rules that require us 
  to do so, it seems obvious that there exists a precedent which should guide 
  our decision.
   
  In 802.3z, we specifically took a vote to 
  avoid connector discussions ("connector wars")**. We could do the same in 
  802.3ae. If we did, I would argue that we would, effectively, be retaining the 
  duplex SC optical connector specified in clause 38.
   
  My PERSONAL preference would be to specify 
  the LC connector. Rationale:
  1. There seems to be an overall 
  inclination to move in that direction.
  2. It sets the stage for some kind of 
  "Small Form Factor" 10 Gig transceiver.
  3. I don't think that it would negatively 
  impact the cost of the transceiver in the 2002 (standard completion time 
  frame).
   
  As CHAIR, I don't want to use up any 
  cycles on this. If there isn't sufficient consensus to agree on an alternative 
  to the SC, we should just adopt the SC and move on.
   
  jonathan
   
  ** In reality, this was bumped up to 802.3 
  because neither I (sub-chair for PMD) nor Howard (802.3z chair) wanted to use 
  precious committee time for the discussion.
  Jonathan Thatcher,
Chair, IEEE 802.3ae (10 Gigabit 
  Ethernet)
Principal Engineer, World Wide Packets
PO BOX 141719, Suite B; 
  12720 E. Nora, Spokane, WA 99214
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