RE: Proposed WAN vs. LAN Terms (Ethernet HSSG)
- To: "'Buckman, Lisa'" <lbuckman@exch.hpl.hp.com>, "'bgregory@molex.com'" <bgregory@molex.com>, BRIAN_LEMOFF@HP-PaloAlto-om16.om.hp.com
- Subject: RE: Proposed WAN vs. LAN Terms (Ethernet HSSG)
- From: "Yokouchi, Jim" <JYokouchi@sumitomoelectric.com>
- Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 21:25:11 -0400
- Cc: stds-802-3-hssg@ieee.org, xclairardin@molex.com, twhitlow@molex.com
- Sender: owner-stds-802-3-hssg@majordomo.ieee.org
Hi everybody,
Please allow me jumping in.
I have some comments from the view point of an optical component supplier.
An isolator that is used in a LD module should not be a expensive parts
among entire 10Gbps optical module.
It is also much cheaper than the inline isolators like in a WDM system
because of no polarization concern.
DFB-LD should have it.
FP-LD might be OK without it for very short distance.
I would put an isolator on to keep a better loss budget.
I believe that a directly modulated laser is very potential solution for
short reach and intermediate reach application in terms of both cost and
reliability.
It's so simple.
I have one thing to tell you regarding directly modulated laser.
A modulation speed is the trade off performance versus extinction ratio of
output signal.
If we could relax the extinction spec, we would open device selection,
including suppliers, significantly wide, I believe. It reduces a cost, of
course.
Even Gigabit Ethernet, only good laser can be used like ours.
It's not commercial thing, but a serious joke.
However, if we persist in a tight spec like OC-192, we might miss a
potential solution.
If we can use it, we should use it.
Jim Yokouchi
Sumitomo Electric Lightwave Corp.
jyokouchi@sumitomoelectric.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Buckman, Lisa [SMTP:lbuckman@exch.hpl.hp.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 7:39 PM
> To: 'bgregory@molex.com'; BRIAN_LEMOFF@HP-PaloAlto-om16.om.hp.com
> Cc: stds-802-3-hssg@ieee.org; xclairardin@molex.com; twhitlow@molex.com
> Subject: RE: Proposed WAN vs. LAN Terms (Ethernet HSSG)
>
>
> Bryan,
> In response to this comment you made:
>
> "I've heard a number of individuals state
> that a directly modulated 10 Gb laser is possible. Lucent seemed to be
> proposing this at the Austin meeting (I believe their eye pattern was from
> one
> of these devices). If this was a directly modulated uncooled DFB without
> isolator, then I believe it would be by far the lowest cost and the most
> straight forward."
>
> Just wanted clarify that the directly modulated, uncooled DFB that Lucent
> discussed at the Austin meeting, DOES have an isolator. I clarified this
> with Lucent after their presentation. The directly modulated, uncooled FP
> that they discussed does not have an isolator.
>
> Lisa Buckman
> Hewlett-Packard Laboratories
> lbuckman@hpl.hp.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bgregory@molex.com [mailto:bgregory@molex.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 1999 2:34 PM
> To: BRIAN_LEMOFF@HP-PaloAlto-om16.om.hp.com
> Cc: stds-802-3-hssg@ieee.org; xclairardin@molex.com; twhitlow@molex.com
> Subject: Proposed WAN vs. LAN Terms (Ethernet HSSG)
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Just a quick question, is there a "term" defined for the very long reach
> version
> of 10GEth? These definitions seem to be important to our discussion. As
> Brian
> from HP stated, we're not being clear on the specific application
> environment.
> I'd suggest something like:
>
> 10,000Base-SX
> Multi-mode
> Wavelength ~ 850nm
> I'd guess WWDM only
> 300m reach over 62.5um fiber
>
> 10,000Base-LX
> Single-mode (maybe also multi-mode)
> Wavelength ~ 1310nm or 1550nm
> WWDM, Serial or MAS
> 10km reach
>
> 10,000Base-EX (EX=Extended Length)
> Single-mode
> Wavelength ~ 1550nm
> DWDM or Serial
> Externally modulated
> Long Reach
> (similar to what Bill St. Arnaud is talking about)
>
> Also, I've seen some comments on the serial version of the 10,000Base-LX
> that
> assume it'll be externally modulated. I've heard a number of individuals
> state
> that a directly modulated 10 Gb laser is possible. Lucent seemed to be
> proposing this at the Austin meeting (I believe their eye pattern was from
> one
> of these devices). If this was a directly modulated uncooled DFB without
> isolator, then I believe it would be by far the lowest cost and the most
> straight forward. Regarding the 10,000Base-EX, I'd (obviously) assume that
> this
> was only externally modulated.
>
> Regards,
> Bryan Gregory
> bgregory@molex.com
> 630/512-8520