Re: WAN PHY name
Rich,
I'll jump in here. The proposal you refer to was one that
David Martin gave in response to a request for information
so that 802.3 could respond to a letter from T1X1. This
is absolutely NOT a proposal in front of P802.3ae. See
Paul Bottorff's "Why WAN PHY?" proposal to see specifically
why it is NOT a proposal.
I'll let Roy give specifics regarding each of the proposals
you've listed. I just wanted to answer your first question.
No wonder you've been confusing more than a couple of us ;^)
Ben
Rich Taborek wrote:
>
> Roy,
>
> I believe that you and I agree on something.
>
> You said: "Ethernet over SONET/SDH is the standard that are being developed in
> T1X1 and ITU."
>
> I said: "Ethernet Over SONET represents a specific proposal to IEEE P802.3ae to
> map Ethernet to SONET."
>
> I believe that the latest reference to the proposal identified in both our
> statements above is embodied in:
> http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/3/ae/public/mar00/martin_1_0300.pdf. Note
> that there have been many, many other presentations endorsing the same general
> mapping given to IEEE P802.3ae over the course of the last several months.
>
> Am I completely lost? Please tell me if the proposal referenced in the link
> above is not an active proposal in front of IEEE P802.3? If it's not, then I
> don't have to worry about it any more.
>
> Please help me differentiate between all of the following:
>
> a) T1X1.5/99-268r1;
> b) Ethernet over SONET/SDH;
> c) WAN compatible PHY being developed by the IEEE;
> d) "Lite" version of SONET/SDH.
>
> I apologize in advance for my ignorance and any confusion I have caused the
> committee.
>
> Best Regards,
> Rich
>
> --
>
> Roy Bynum wrote:
> >
> > Rich,
> >
> > You need to pay more attention, or if you have been paying attention,stop
> > generating confusion. Ethernet over SONET/SDH is the standard that are
> > being developed in T1X1 and ITU. The WAN compatible PHY is being developed
> > by IEEE. The WAN compatible PHY proposal uses a "Lite" version of
> > SONET/SDH.
> >
> > Roy
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Rich Taborek <rtaborek@earthlink.net>
> > To: HSSG <stds-802-3-hssg@ieee.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 12:57 PM
> > Subject: Re: WAN PHY name
> >
> > >
> > > Jay, Martin,
> > >
> > > I believe that Ethernet Over SONET represents a specific proposal to IEEE
> > > P802.3ae to map Ethernet to SONET. Two problems with this:
> > >
> > > 1) It is not a proposal endorsed by a majority of IEEE P802.3ae members
> > > interested in meeting the WAN objectives, nevermind 75%;
> > >
> > > 2) It is not applicable to supporting native Ethernet over the WAN in the
> > > absence of SONET/SDH.
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Rich
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > jay.hoge@uk.jdsunph.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > How about EOS/S (Ethernet Over SONET / SDH)? The world extends beyond
> > North
> > > > America.
> > >
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