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Re: [802.3_4PPOE] Proposal for remedy for comments 6, 75, 84, 113, 114, 115, 230, 244 (and may be others) - UPDATE



Hi Pete,

Please see my response below.

Thanks for your inputs.

Yair

 

From: Peter Johnson [mailto:peter_johnson@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 11:03 PM
To: Yair Darshan; STDS-802-3-4PPOE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [802.3_4PPOE] Proposal for remedy for comments 6, 75, 84, 113, 114, 115, 230, 244 (and may be others) - UPDATE

 

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Yair:

 

Item 4 Max column shows “1,2,3,4”.  

 

This is PSE Type?  

Yair: Yes it is PSE.

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 In truth, according to Figure 33-14, there is a maximum possible Icon that is Ilim_min.

Yair: Icon is Icut_min and not Ilim_min. In addition Figure 33-14 is going to be changed for much clearer description of the relationship between the different parameters.  

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The minimum Icon is the PSE lowerbound template for continuous current, i.e. after Tcut.

 

In the text, the phrase “normal POWER ON state” seems vaguely defined.  

Yair: POWER_ON state is defined state. It is normal powering without faults i.e. ovld and short circuit.

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Is this specifically a condition where the PD is operating within its allowed steady-state power budget meaning the PSE is operating at or below the lowerbound template for continuous current ?

Yair: Correct.

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Specifying Icont-2P-unb MAXIMUMS of 668 mA for Type-3 and 931 mA for Type-4 seems confusing.   A Type-2 PSE today can furnish up to 684 mA continuously (with or without pair-pair unbalance) and meet the template in Figure 33-14.   That is higher than 668 mA, of course.    Again, this may tie back to a PSE operating at or below the lowerbound template – that would represent the constraint in order for 668 mA to be a Type-3 maximum pair set current.

Yair: Type 2  684mA could possibly be the constrain to the 668mA Type 3. However Drawing 33-14 is parametric and per PSE type as the whole table 33-11.

Moreover, all numbers for Type 3 and 4 are not final so I suggest to keep this comment after finalizing all numbers and Figure 33-14.

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Food for thought….

 

Regards,

Pete Johnson

 

Sifos

 

 

 

From: Yair Darshan [mailto:YDarshan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 11:31 AM
To: STDS-802-3-4PPOE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [802.3_4PPOE] Proposal for remedy for comments 6, 75, 84, 113, 114, 115, 230, 244 (and may be others) - UPDATE

 

Update

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Hi all,

Please review for the meeting tomorrow.

Regards

Yair

 

Darshan Yair

Chair

Power over HDBaseT Subcommittee

HDBaseT Alliance

 

Chief R&D Engineer

Analog Mixed Signal Group

Microsemi Corporation

 

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