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Re: [802.3_10SPE] A comment on 'Open issues on the 1000m link specification'

Dieter – in the past, link segments that are compatible with (that is met by) ISO/IEC channel specifications have been used, rather than link segments that are identical to ISO/IEC channel specifications.

The specification you propose (𝑅𝑙 (𝑓) = 24 − 5log(f) 10<f<20 ) crosses the 19dB line at 15.849 MHz.  So, I think a reasonable solution would be to modify the return loss equation to align with both clauses and, unless there is a PHY reason not to.



Return loss >= min ( 18 dB, 24-5log10(f) )


From: Cuanachain, Oisin [mailto:Oisin.Ocuanachain@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 9:14 AM
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Subject: [802.3_10SPE] A comment on 'Open issues on the 1000m link specification'


Slide 3 asserts that ‘In the range of 10 MHz to 20 MHz IEEE 802.3 links and ISO cabling standards specify a slope for return loss.’ and proposes changing our adopted baseline ‘To harmonize it is proposed to specify the same slope as all others between 10 and 20 MHz’.

Doing a quick check I don’t see much evidence to support this, specifically:

100BaseT1 has constant R.L. up to 20MHz:

1000BaseT1 has a slope beyond 10MHz:

1000BaseT has constant R.L. up to 20MHz:

So the proposed change seems to be harmonizing specifically with 1000BaseT1, is there some good reason to do this ?