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Re: [EFM] EFM Requirements

It looks like it is time for you to attend one of our meetings.   This is
exactly the debate we are having in the face  to face sessions.  The next
meeting is in Denmark, but if you cannot attend that one, you should plan to be
in Austin, Texas for our November meeting.  Check the web site for details.
Richard Brand

Harry Hvostov wrote:

> Frank,
> Great thoughts. How much fiber do you plan to drop in the "first mile"? Also
> what is your transceiver budget? In the case of high split ratios the longer
> and faster and the more splits the more expensive the solution.
> Any ideas on the numbers?
> Harry
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frank Miller [mailto:frank@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 1:18 PM
> To: 'Vladimir Oksman'; Frank Miller
> Cc: 'Hugh Barrass'; Lough, Andy; Sherman Ackley; Stds-802-3-Efm (E-mail)
> Subject: RE: [EFM] EFM Requirements
> Howdy Vladimir,
> My experience is from the US telephony industry as a CIO for a large
> tri-state ISP.
> If the target market for the technology is the provider (ILEC, CLEC, ISP),
> why not start
> with a set of engineering requirements that provide a reasonable business
> model.  I do not
> see the capital and market for any large fiber build out with copper for the
> last mile only, nor
> with a EFM solution that only hits 4.5KFt.
> First, the valuation of fiber has drastically reduced (in proportion to
> increase in bandwidth capacity).  Companies whom have banked on building
> fiber WAN/MAN networks are not where I'd
> bank my investment capital. Second, companies with current traditional xDSL
> technologies (Northpoint, etc) have not been able to build a working
> business model with current engineering requirements.
> The only companies that will be left standing to provision DSL will be the
> ILEC's, but their business
> is tightly controlled by various federal and state regulatory agencies.  In
> the state of Oregon, the ILEC required $70M of state capital infusion in
> order to even justify DSLAM's in rural communities.
> In this financial market, it makes business sense to start with a set of
> engineering requirements
> that reflect the reality of the current and future telecommunication market.
> I need a technology that
> I can stay profitable with .. I need reach.
> Frank
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vladimir Oksman [mailto:oksman@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 1:00 PM
> > To: Frank Miller
> > Cc: 'Hugh Barrass'; Lough, Andy; Sherman Ackley;
> > Stds-802-3-Efm (E-mail)
> > Subject: Re: [EFM] EFM Requirements
> >
> >
> > Frank,
> >
> >      I would like to remind that EFM = Ethernet in the First
> > Mile, but not in
> > first 10 miles. To cover 10 miles it is probably assumed a
> > fiber for the first
> > 9.5 miles and some copper tail after. That's why PON is the
> > major topic in EFM
> > group as well.
> >
> > Vladimir.
> >
> >
> >
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