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RE: [EFM] RE: OAM functionals


Does facility alarm include:

1. Chassis power supply status(in this case, CPE)
2. Fan present/status

Mechanical thing such as verifying if a box
is fully closed is hard to implement.  Does 
redundancy fault categorized as facility alarm
also?  Thanks.


-----Original Message-----
From: Roy Bynum [mailto:rabynum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 7:32 AM
To: ah_smith@xxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: stds-802-3-efm
Subject: [EFM] RE: OAM functionals


These were not rhetorical questions.  The issue of supporting far end 
active systems, and possibly active intermediate systems at "dark" sites

has been a handicap for those service providers that are currently using

GbE for service delivery.

One of the presenters at the January 2001 meeting, John Moore,, made the 
comment that he had to do a truck roll just to verify that the box cover

was closed on the active demark system on the side of the customer's 
house.  This is the sort of thing that "Facilities Alarms" are for.
are a lot of other things that simple "alarms" are needed for.  The
as a whole needs to learn more about these types of issues that exist in
service provider infrastructure, particularly at the very edge.

Thank you,
Roy Bynum

At 10:38 PM 9/24/01 -0700, Andrew Smith wrote:
>Assuming those weren't rhetorical questions - all I know on these
topics are
>what I learnt from the presentation materials submitted so far to this
>so: no, no, no and no.
>Looking forward to learning more,
>Andrew Smith
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Roy Bynum [mailto:rabynum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 5:49 PM
>To: ah_smith@xxxxxxxxxxx
>Cc: stds-802-3-efm
>Subject: OAM functionals
>Lets start a new thread.
>I would like for others, perhaps you, to be able contribute to some of
>access edge OAM functional requirements.
>Do you know what "Facilities Alarms" are?  Do you know what they are
>for?  Do you know how they work?  Do you know why they might be needed
>Thank you,
>Roy Bynum