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Re: [EFM] Performance monitoring, installation, trouble shooting .




To add to the SBC comment:  Loopback functionality is a basic functionality that
is a requirement of most (if not all) service providers.  Loopback functionality
is a requirement for Qwest as well.

Charles

Matt Squire wrote:

> I'll repeat the current status of loopback within OAM.
> - A ping connectivity test is a requirement.
> - A loopback mode is a requirement.
> - Controlling the state of the loopback mode at the other end of a link
> is a requirement.
>
> There is also a group of people that believe that the functionality of
> loopback can be achieved without a loopback mode, but enhancing the MIBS
> and the PHY functionality.  They are actively investigating the
> possibility.  When and if they think they can show equivalent
> functionality, the results will be presented to the reflector.  At that
> point everyone can judge whether the alternate method provides
> equivalent function.
>
> Loopback itself is a function.  The function is used to fulfill certain
> operational requirements.  If those requirements can be met with other
> methods, and this point can be provent to the group as whole (including
> Kent), then the other methods deserve consideration.  I don't think this
> is in any way conflicts with Kent's statement (though I'm sure he'll
> correct me if I'm wrong).
>
> Loopback will remain a requirement until someone can prove to the OAM
> group that there is a better way.
>
> - Matt
>
> Roy Bynum wrote:
> >
> > Kent,
> >
> > I have found that if you do not use strong enough language, the vendors
> > that may not have what you require, will attempt to "interpret" your words
> > so that they can mean something totally different than what you
> > intended.  If I am correct, you may want to resend your comment and use the
> > words "our operations requires that ability".  If you check with your
> > equipment "certification" people for edge access infrastructure, you may
> > find that loop back functionality at the physical layer is a hard
> > requirement, just like it is on T1/T3 infrastructure today.  I know that it
> > was a requirement the large service provider that I was previously with.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Roy Bynum
> >
> > At 04:18 PM 2/15/2002 -0800, kmccammon@tri.sbc.com wrote:
> >
> > >Bob,
> > >Loopback functionality is important for SBC, our operations need that
> > >ability.
> > >-Kent
> > >
> > >Kent G. McCammon
> > >Broadband Access Group
> > >SBC Technology Resources, Inc
> > >4698 Willow Road
> > >Pleasanton, CA 94588
> > >925-598-1246
> > >kmccammon@tri.sbc.com
> > >