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Frank And All:|
Yes, but lets not be deceived, keep in mind that the
needs of one National Lab (read that government funded)
are not the basis of Broad Market Potential!
Frank Chang wrote:
Hi Bent; I think this is slightly different from the CERN tour, which I missed last week. NERSC tour may be the real oppty to let everyone observe/realize how badly the 100g is immediately needed for aggregation, as I recall Mike's talk of end-users' perspective below: http://www.ieee802.org/3/hssg/public/sep06/bennett_02_0906.pdf I agree this tour better not conflict with the group discussion, so take lunch break or between meeting times, but I personally believe definitely a nice thing to have. Thanks -Frank -----Original Message----- From: Brent Draney [mailto:brdraney@NERSC.GOV] Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 11:04 AM To: STDS-802-3-HSSG@listserv.ieee.org Subject: Re: [HSSG] July session/NERSC tour All, As has been correctly pointed out, the purpose of IEEE is to perform very important tasks and an offer for a Tour is outside the scope of HSSG. For anyone that wishes to visit NERSC, please contact me and I will arrange a time that does not conflict with the important work of HSSG at the July Plenary (before, after, and after hours). Thank You, BrentJohn, I'm sorry to see that things are getting bogged down. I hope that July goes better. I was wondering how the CERN tour went and if you thought that a tour of the NERSC computational center would be an interesting event. NERSC is only a 20 minute bart ride away. We can do multiple tours of groups around 20. Sign-in is little more than a name on a paper badge. Because we are strictly unclassified cameras are encouraged. It would be an opportunity to see some of the biggest computers on the Internet. Let me know if you think this would be worth while. Thanks, Brent Draney NERSC PS: Let me know if you think of any way I can help reach consensus.Dear Members of the HSSG, Given the events of last week, as an 802.3 Study Group, we now find ourselves in a precarious position. With the failure to get a PAR / 5 criteria approved at last week's interim meeting, we must now worry about gaining approvals for extension of the study group life. At this point the SG has been given two extensions. The third extension in July was intended to cover the SG while the PAR / 5 Criteria went through the cycle of approval at 802EC, NesCom, and the IEEE-SA Standards Board. As the situation now is, the third extension is needed to extend the lift of the SG, and a fourth extension would be requested at the November meeting to cover the approval process at 802EC, NesCom, and the IEEE-SA Standards Board in the November / December timeframe. It is unprecedented for a SG to get four extensions, and at the last meeting, a number of individuals were already speaking against a third extension if no forward progress was made by the SG by the end of the July meeting. I will be pushing for the SG to finalize and approve its recommendations regarding PAR(S) and respective 5 Criteria responses at the July meeting. Assuming the SG can progress this far, we can then present these recommendations to the 802.3 Working Group for approval at the July Plenary. This would then allow us to pre-submit the SG recommendations to the 802 EC in July for consideration at the November meeting, which would help strengthen the SG's requests for extensions at the July and November meetings. Please keep this in mind between now and the July Plenary. The ability of this study group to reach consensus regarding a PAR or PARs on the 40G / 100G issue will be dependent upon its members. All must work together to drive towards a consensus position or the future of this group is clearly in doubt. John D'Ambrosia Chair, IEEE 802.3 Higher Speed Study Group