Steve,
I believe that there has been a
misunderstanding. The discussion in Geneva
related to the fact that we could not call an interim meeting between then and
the July Plenary to complete the PAR / 5c, and still meet the 30 day
requirement for circulation of the documents to the 802 EC for approval at the
July Plenary by the 802 EC. Therefore,
we would need 30 days for the interim meeting notice and then another 30 days
for the circulation requirement, a total of 60 days.
As announced, the agenda for the meeting
will be to discuss the HSSG goals for the Plenary week HSSG meeting. This
time will be used to expand upon what I have traditionally done at the
beginning of each meeting in the agenda / general information, which typically
takes 45 minutes. Therefore, there will be no other time for
presentations, which means I would not designate this time for hearing motions
since there were presentations to be heard, which is the precedent that all of
other meetings has been run by. As far as strawpolls go, only strawpolls
related to the discussion at that time would be deemed appropriate, and as
chair I would be monitoring time availability to ensure adequate time for SG discussion.
John
From: Trowbridge, Stephen J (Steve) [mailto:sjtrowbridge@alcatel-lucent.com]
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 8:31
AM
To: John DAmbrosia;
STDS-802-3-HSSG@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: RE: [HSSG] Additional
HSSG Meeting During July 2007 IEEE 802 Plenary Week
John,
This seems like a really thin argument.
We were told in Geneva that the next meeting was in the IEEE
plenary week. HSSG had a time slot allocated (Tu-Th AM) in the plenary week,
and we were beyond the 30 day window to schedule anything prior to the
week of the plenary, so it seemed like a perfectly reasonable assumption that
it was safe to book travel (of course cheaper if this can be done at least 30
days ahead).
To wait until the last possible moment to
announce this interim session seems inappropriate. Again, I do not object to
ANY opportunity for informal discussion, since the more discussion we have, the
better to make progress. But should such a session be used to push through some
motions or straw polls that may not have passed the full group, this would not
help for the trust situation in the group.
Regards,
Steve
From: John DAmbrosia
[mailto:jdambrosia@FORCE10NETWORKS.COM]
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 6:16
AM
To:
STDS-802-3-HSSG@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: Re: [HSSG] Additional
HSSG Meeting During July 2007 IEEE 802 Plenary Week
Marcus / Steve,
While I understand and appreciate your
viewpoint, the notice for the meeting does meet the 30 day notification
requirement, as specified in “Operating Rules of IEEE Project 802 Working Group 802.3, CSMA/CD
LANs.”
John
From: Marcus Duelk
[mailto:duelk@ALCATEL-LUCENT.COM]
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 4:54
AM
To:
STDS-802-3-HSSG@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: Re: [HSSG] Additional
HSSG Meeting During July 2007 IEEE 802 Plenary Week
Steve, John,
I had the exact same thoughts when this email with the announcement
of this "interim meeting" was sent around. I had made travel plans
long
time ago, including flight and hotel booking. I would like to participate
in the Monday morning meeting, if there is any, but I don't know whether
I will be available to find an earlier flight, change my ticket, and find
another
hotel for that one night.
I find this short-term announcement of another important meeting
not acceptable.
Marcus
Trowbridge, Stephen J (Steve) wrote:
John,
For myself, I received this email two days
after booking my flight to arrive Monday morning in SFO and having
booked the meeting hotel beginning from Monday night.
The information about this meeting session
was not presented during the previous meeting in Geneva, and was not
distributed until we had the information that the meeting hotel is now sold
out, so even if I were to spend the money to change my flight, it is not
certain that I could add Sunday night to my hotel booking.
There is a lot to do, so I certainly
do not object to trying to use the 90 minute slot for informal discussions to
try to figure out how to make progress. But I do have an objection to
calling it an interim meeting of HSSG. I would request that you refrain from
conducting any motions or straw polls as a part of this session so as not to
exclude those who have already booked their travel from the decision process.
Regards,
Steve
From: John
DAmbrosia [mailto:jdambrosia@FORCE10NETWORKS.COM]
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007
12:54 PM
To: STDS-802-3-HSSG@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: [HSSG] Additional HSSG
Meeting During July 2007 IEEE 802 Plenary Week
All,
The HSSG will be having an interim meeting
adjacent to and co-located with the IEEE 802 plenary meeting in July.
(Plenary information may be found at http://ieee802.facetoface-events.com/sessions/44/files/announcement.pdf).
We will be getting together Monday, July 16, 2007
from 9 to 10:30am prior to the July IEEE 802 opening plenary. The agenda
for the meeting will be to discuss the HSSG goals for the Plenary week HSSG
meeting. At this time I have been informed that the meeting room will be
Pacific Concourse JK, but it would be advisable to double check.
Please make your travel arrangements accordingly.
Best Regards,
John D’Ambrosia
Chair, IEEE 802.3 Higher Speed Study Group
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