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All: I fully agree with Geoff’s
observations but would like to explain and illuminate a little. When I said I “expected” that
we would be a Task Force; that is what I expect to be the final outcome. If
I did not think that we would become a Task Force I would never asked for the
get together in I was 100% off base with the suggestion
that you need not attend the opening plenary. Geoff is again right that
this is part of the obligation that all WG members take on when they join. It
may seem odd to talk of obligations to a volunteer organization but they exist.
The Study Group presentation should be attended by all who plan on attending
the other SG meetings during the week; the whole opening plenary should be
attended by any WG voting member or those who plan on becoming a voting member.
I should not have tried to lighten the burden; it is part of the price of
admission. Cheers Mike
Voice: +1 603 222 8686 From: Mike- 1) Attendance, you need to attend 75% of the time for
75% of the days and the attendance book will not be passed on Thursday AM. If
you need to leave early (not recommended) on Thursday and you might miss the
attendance book then you had better come on Monday PM. 2) Discussion of your project in the plenary. Believe
it or not, this is actually what you come for. You are (or are seeking to be) a
real live member of 802.3. The meetings of 802.3 are where the binding
discussion take place. all you do in the Task Force/Study Group is PROPOSE
things to 802.3. If any of the work of the SG is challenged in the Plenary then
you should be there to help defend your work. If any of your work turns out to
be at odds (real or merely alleged) with other work in 802.3 then you should be
there to participate in the discussion. 3) There may be an early discussion of the contents of
your PAR and 5 Criteria. If the membership of 802.3 wants to discuss the PAR
and 5 and there is no one from the Study Group to participate in the discussion
then you will look like a bunch of schmucks who aren't really bought into the
process. 4) Plenary discussion of other topics. One of the
burdens that you have signed up for in order to have the privilege of
developing an IEEE 802.3 Standard is an obligation and duty to actually
participate in the business of the Working Group. That means you are supposed
to provide your judgement and due diligence over the rest of the work and
governance of the group. The way you do that is to participate in the plenaries
and letter ballots. Further, you really do need to plan to stay all the way through the
discussion of your project on Thursday afternoon. The PAR and 5 Criteria will
be discussed and voted on at that time. The approval by 802.3 is by no means a slam
dunk. You vote is needed and your support during the discussion is likely to be
needed. All: |