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[802.3af] RE: Max classification time for PD spec




Yair,

My PD and PSE can easily meet the new specification.  

I agree that this is a good item to add into the spec.

Thong Huynh

Thong Huynh
Senior Corporate Applications Engineer
Maxim Integrated Products 
120 San Gabriel Dr. M/S 140-3
Sunnyvale, CA.  94086
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Email:  thong_huynh@maximhq.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Dave Dwelley [SMTP:ddwelley@linear.com]
> Sent:	Monday, August 12, 2002 9:54 AM
> To:	Yair Darshan; Thong Huynh (E-mail); 'Hemmah, Steve'
> Cc:	'stds-802-3-pwrviamdi@ieee.org'
> Subject:	Re: Max classification time for PD spec
> 
> Yair -
> 
> Good catch. This is something we need to spec.
> 
> All circuits LTC has in development will be OK with the new specs. I'd 
> guess nearly any integrated solution will be able to meet the 5ms number 
> without trouble.
> 
> Dave
> 
> At 03:54 PM 8/12/2002 +0200, Yair Darshan wrote:
> >Guys,
> >
> >We have specified min and max classification time for the PSE spec.
> >It means that the PSE will sense the current or voltage after 10ms from 
> >the time that the Voltage  or current to the PSE port and the whole 
> >function will be ended after total of 75ms.
> >
> >The reason for 10ms min was to allow the PD enough time to get stable.
> >
> >Now we have to limit the max stabilization time of the circuits at the PD
> 
> >to keep our 6db margin.
> >
> >So I suggest to define at the PD spec at table 33-13 as follows:
> >
> >Add item 7 to the table. Parameter: "PD classification stability time " ,
> 
> >Unit:"ms", value: 5ms max.
> >Add note for item 7: "Measured from the time that classification voltage 
> >or current applied to the PD port until the voltage or current reached to
> 
> >their 1% of their steady state value"
> >
> >Summary:
> >
> >The classification circuits at the PD will be stable within 5ms max.
> >The PSE will start to take data after 10ms min. and will remove 
> >classification voltage/current within 75ms max.
> >
> >Please check (PD chip vendors) if you can meet those numbers or suggest 
> >modifying it.
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >Yair
> >
> >
> >Darshan Yair
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