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Re: URGENT - We Need an Instantaneous Response. (That means DO IT NOW !!!)





Okay, so if dot3 and dot1 want to go to Sac'to, can we fit dot17 into that
venue as well?  I have lost the information about the meeting host for
Sac'to, other than I believe it was some one from Intel.  

Mike, would dot17 like to go to Sacramento in May, 2001, or would they
prefer Orlando?

Howard

Steve Carlson wrote:
> 
> Buzz-
> 
> I have been in touch with Howard and Jonathan. All of us vote for
> Sacramento. We have e-mail from 802.1 indicating that they will go where
> 802.3 goes.
> 
> Consider this as 802.3's response. Option #2 it is.
> 
> Thanks and regards,
> 
> Steve
> 
> Steven B. Carlson
> President
> Co-Chair, ESTA Control Protocols Working Group
> Chair, ESTA ACN Task Group
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> Chair, IEEE 802.3af DTE Power via MDI Task Force
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rigsbee, Everett O [mailto:Everett.Rigsbee@PSS.Boeing.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 2:52 PM
> To: scarlson@hspdesign.com
> Subject: FW: URGENT - We Need an Instantaneous Response. (That means DO
> IT NOW !!!)
> 
> Steve,   Here it is !!!
> Thanx,  Buzz
> Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
> Boeing SSG
> PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
> Seattle, WA  98124-2207
> ph: (425) 865-2443, fx: (425) 865-6721
> email:  everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
> > ----------
> > From:         Rigsbee, Everett O
> > Sent:         Wednesday, November 29, 2000 6:37 AM
> > To:   '802 Exec'
> > Cc:   '802 @F2F Dawn S'; '802 @F2F Darcel Moro'; 'Caroline R. Armstrong';
> 'Kesling, Dawson W'
> > Subject:      URGENT -  We Need an Instantaneous Response.  (That means DO IT
> NOW !!!)
> >
> > Dear SEC:   OK here's the pitch for the May Interim.  Please response ASAP
> !!!
> >
> > After some rather intensive searching of the Orlando area for a suitable
> venue (and checking other Eastern locations as well) we've finally come up
> with something that looks workable, but we need to make an immediate
> decision as to how we want to go.
> >
> > We have found 2nd option availability at the Hyatt Orlando in Kissimmee,
> FL (a resort property  ~1.5 miles from Walt Disney World).  During our week
> of May 14-19, 2001, they can offer us up to 625 of their 922 rooms per night
> and there's a large Radisson right nearby which could provide any necessary
> overflow rooms and/or meeting space.  The Hyatt Orlando has a good selection
> of meeting space, all centrally located, and almost all of it is currently
> available (only a couple of the smaller rooms are currently booked).  We
> believe there is enough space to do all the meetings for an Interim meeting
> for all of our Working Groups.  The group rate they are offering is
> $119/129 S/D.  Their pricings for Food & Beverage, Audio Visual, and
> Miscellaneous services look to be very competitive for the area.  You can
> check out all the details of the property at their website at:
> >       http://www.hyatt.com/usa/kissimmee/hotels/hotel_mcoor.html
> >
> > OK, so what's this 2nd option business all about ???  This means there is
> another group who has asked Hyatt Orlando to hold space for their function
> during that same week, but they have not committed to sign a contract yet.
> How it works is as follows:  if we sign a 2nd option contract for the dates
> we want, the other group is given 72 hours to either sign their contract or
> release the space (and we're in).  The probabilities are good that if we act
> now we WILL get the space.  The problem is that we have a nice gentleman
> from Intel, (Dawson Kesling) who has offered to host an 802.3 Interim
> meeting at the Hyatt Sacramento, who is holding space there and he is being
> pressured to sign a contract or risk losing the space.  If he loses the
> space and the other group signs the contract at Hyatt Orlando, then we're
> back to square zero.
> >
> > So I see 3 possible options for us to choose from:
> >
> > Option #1:  We say, "Go for it!"  We sign the contract for the full
> meeting and we'll know in 72 hours whether we have a site or not.  We tell
> Dawson, "Thank you very much for your offer and we'll hope to have you host
> a meeting in the future."  If we strikeout at Hyatt Orlando, we go back and
> look at several other back-up properties to get the deal we need (we
> currently have several, but only 1 is in the Orlando area).
> >
> > Option #2:  We divide the meeting.  We let 802.3 go ahead and do their own
> thing at the Hyatt Sacramento and we do everybody else at Hyatt Orlando (if
> we can get in).  We can reduce the room block to 500, we will certainly have
> plenty of meeting space, and we won't need to worry about overflow space.
> OK so it's not a fully co-located 802-Hosted Interim meeting, but we said
> this was an experiment to see how it works.  It probably best to start off
> with a more manageable-sized group anyway.
> >
> > Option #3:  We blow-off the 802-Hosted May Interim meeting completely,
> every WG does their own thing with their own hosts, and we think about maybe
> trying this again sometime in the future.
> >
> > I'm going to go out on a limb here and recommend Option #2 for your
> consideration, since it seems to get us a trial run and we take on the least
> risk, but the choice really belongs to the WG chairs who have to survive
> these meetings.  I also think we sho> uld weight the voting on this by the
> size of the constituency (as recorded at Tampa) since I'm a believer in
> 1-man, 1-vote, and we're trying to do what's right for the greatest number
> of people here (note: this implies the vote for an SEC member with no > WG
> would count 1).  >
> >
> > Whatever you decide (i.e. Option #1, 2, or 3), you must send me you
> response TODAY because we risk losing all if we don't decide right away.  In
> the unlikely event of a tie vote, I flip a coin to see who wins.  Please
> decide now !!!  Later will be TOO LATE and you'll wind up with Option #3 by
> default.  You may call or send email to Dawn or myself if you have any
> burning questions but please don't bother with suggesting other Options
> which we have overlooked/forgotten.  What you see is what you get.  Tempus
> Fugit !!!
> >
> > We await your response.   :-)
> >
> > Thanx,  Buzz
> > Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
> > Boeing SSG
> > PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
> > Seattle, WA  98124-2207
> > ph: (425) 865-2443, fx: (425) 865-6721
> > email:  everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
> > Thanx,  Buzz
> > Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
> > Boeing SSG
> > PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
> > Seattle, WA  98124-2207
> > ph: (425) 865-2443, fx: (425) 865-6721
> > email:  everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
> >