RE: [802SEC] +++ SEC EMAIL BLLOT +++ MOTION: Authorize the Link Security Executive Study Group to become an 802.1 Study Group
Paul / All,
In light of the fact that this is not as clear cut as I first thought I
wish to change my vote to disapprove.
Thanks,
Mat
Matthew Sherman
Vice Chair, IEEE 802
Technology Consultant
Communications Technology Research
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-----Original Message-----
From: Sherman,Matthew J (Matthew)
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 3:30 PM
To: 'Paul Nikolich'; IEEE802
Cc: Dolors Sala (E-mail)
Subject: RE: [802SEC] +++ SEC EMAIL BLLOT +++ MOTION: Authorize the Link
Security Executive Study Group to become an 802.1 Study Group
Approve
Matthew Sherman
Vice Chair, IEEE 802
Technology Consultant
Communications Technology Research
AT&T Labs - Shannon Laboratory
Room B255, Building 103
180 Park Avenue
P.O. Box 971
Florham Park, NJ 07932-0971
Phone: +1 (973) 236-6925
Fax: +1 (973) 360-5877
EMAIL: mjsherman@att.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Nikolich [mailto:paul.nikolich@att.net]
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 2:05 PM
To: IEEE802
Cc: Dolors Sala (E-mail)
Subject: [802SEC] +++ SEC EMAIL BLLOT +++ MOTION: Authorize the Link
Security Executive Study Group to become an 802.1 Study Group
Dear SEC,
This is a 10 day SEC email ballot to make a determination on the below
SEC
motion to authorize the Link Security Executive Study Group to become an
802.1 Study Group. Moved by Tony Jeffree, seconded by Bob Grow.
The email ballot opens on Wednesday February 11 2PM EST and closes
Friday
February 21 2PM EST.
Please direct your responses to the SEC reflector.
Regards,
--Paul Nikolich
Chairman, IEEE 802 LMSC
MOTION: "The SEC resolves that the Link Security Study Group will become
a
study group of the 802.1 HiLi working group, effective from the start
of
the March 802 Plenary meeting."
MOVER: Tony Jeffree
SECOND: Bob Grow
background material:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Jeffree" <tony@jeffree.co.uk>
To: <stds-802-sec@ieee.org>
Cc: "Dolors Sala" <dolors@ieee.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: [802SEC] Link Security Monday morning session announcement
and
update
>
> Paul has suggested (and Dolors agrees) that we might decide the
placement
> of the SG ahead of time by means of an Email motion; this would have
the
> advantage of allowing more time to discuss over the Ether than might
be
> available during the opening SEC meeting in March, and would also free
> Dolors to make best use of what will be a crowded agenda in March.
>
> I would therefore like to make the following motion:
>
> "The SEC resolves that the Link Security Study Group will become a
study
> group of the 802.1 HiLi working group, effective from the start of the
> March 802 Plenary meeting."
>
> I believe that Bob Grow is happy to act as a second.
>
> Regards,
> Tony
>
> At 08:39 08/02/2003 +0000, Tony Jeffree wrote:
>
> >Dolors -
> >
> >802.1 clearly needs to formally confirm the decision, which it can
do on
> >Monday afternoon. However, as 802.1 made the offer to the SG to
become an
> >802.1 SG at the end of the November meeting, this should be a
formality.
> >So, I don't see any problem with moving the SEC decision to Monday
morning
> >- I would also prefer this option.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Tony
> >
> >At 01:29 08/02/2003 -0500, Dolors Sala wrote:
> >>Geoff, I do plan to attend the Exec meeting on Monday morning and
assign
> >>someone to run the session.
> >>
> >>However, I like Howard's suggestion of changing the placement of the
project
> >>on Monday (instead of Friday) to free me of the exec meeting if the
rules
> >>allow us to do so. The SGs are chartered until the closing exec
meeting
of
> >>the following plenary. But if this can be moved to Monday, it would
help. It
> >>would be my preferred option.
> >>
> >>I think the decision can be moved to the beginning of the meeting
because
> >>the opinion of the Link Security members was clear with the straw
poll,
and
> >>no further discussion is needed. The poll was done when we were in
session
> >>together with 802.1. So it is representative of 802.1 members too.
But
I'll
> >>let Tony comment if he thinks 802.1 needs this meeting to confirm
the
> >>decision.
> >>
> >>Dolors
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Howard Frazier" <millardo@dominetsystems.com>
> >>To: "Geoff Thompson" <gthompso@nortelnetworks.com>
> >>Cc: "Dolors Sala" <dolors@ieee.org>; <stds-802-sec@ieee.org>
> >>Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 8:15 PM
> >>Subject: Re: [802SEC] Link Security Monday morning session
announcement
and
> >>update
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Since the Link Security Study Group members seem to
> >> > want conduct their work within 802.1, it might
> >> > be appropriate to change the study group from an ECSG
> >> > to an 802.1 SG. If you do this early Monday morning,
> >> > the Dolors won't have to stick around through the SEC meeting.
> >> >
> >> > I appologize if I have just trod heavily on Tony's or Dolor's
> >> > toes.
> >> >
> >> > Howard
> >> >
> >> > Geoff Thompson wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Dolors-
> >> > >
> >> > > Who is going to run the Monday morning meeting?
> >> > > You are supposed to be in the Exec until (at least) your
proposal
is
> >> > > approved.
> >> > >
> >> > > Geoff
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > At 05:42 PM 2/7/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Dear SEC members,
> >> > >>
> >> > >> The Link Security SG discussed the placement of the project in
the
> >> > >> first SG meeting on January in Vancouver. The decision was to
place
> >> > >> the project in P802.1. A brief summary of the meeting,
including
> >> > >> straw poll numbers, is included at the end of this message.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Based on this decision, we (802.1 and LinkSec) are already
planning
> >> > >> the March meeting together. We are scheduling a Link Security
session
> >> > >> on Monday morning (8:30-10:30am) to encourage participation
from
all
> >> > >> WGs by avoiding overlaps with regular WG meetings.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Please forward the announcement and information below to your
> >> > >> respective WG members.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Thank you,
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Dolors
> >> > >>
> >> > >> ---------
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> IEEE802 March 2003 Plenary Meeting
> >> > >> Monday Morning Link Security Session Announcement
> >> > >>
> >> > >> The Link Security ECSG is scheduled to meet on Monday Morning
> >> > >> (8:30-10:30am) March 10t. This session does not conflict with
most
WG
> >> > >> regular meeting schedule. It is intended to facilitate
participation
> >> > >> from all WG members since the work of this group relates to
several
> >> > >> WGs efforts.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> The agenda for this meeting is to educate each other on the
major
> >> > >> areas related to this project (e.g EPON, bridging, security),
> >> > >> converge on scope, scenarios and objectives and make progress
on
the
> >> > >> work plan including architecture model, project partitioning
and
PAR
> >> > >> definition. See work plan at
> >> > >>
>
>>http://www.ieee802.org/linksec/meetings/MeetingsMaterial/Jan03/LinkSec
Work
Pl
> >>an_0103.pdf
> >> > >> .
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Contributions deadline: March 3rd, 2003 midnight PST
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Submission instructions: To submit your contribution please
send
it
> >> > >> by email in pdf format to dolors@ieee.org, dromasca@avaya.com
> >> > >> <mailto:dromasca@avaya.com> , and allyn@cisco.com
> >> > >> <mailto:allyn@cisco.com> . In your email please indicate title
of
the
> >> > >> presentation, name of the presenter and amount of time needed
to
> >> > >> present the material. Also if you are a member of another WG
and
have
> >> > >> schedule conflict, please indicate so.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> The complete Link Security meeting schedule is posted at:
> >> > >> http://www.ieee802.org/linksec/meetings
> >> > >>
> >> > >> -----
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Summary of Link Security Jan 2003 interim meeting in
Vancouver:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> The two-days meeting covered the presentations including
discussion
> >> > >> on requirements, architecture model, and PAR and 5 criteria,
and
> >> > >> lengthy discussion on scenarios, placement of the project and
the
> >> > >> need of traffic analysis. The group also discussed the
location
and
> >> > >> dates of the next interim meeting.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Major decisions made:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> 1. The SG will recommend to the executive committee in the
next
> >> > >> IEEE802 plenary meeting to place the project in 802.1
> >> > >> 2. The next interim meeting in May will not be co-located
with
EFM
> >> > >> in Korea, but will be in Ottawa hosted by Nortel late
May
early
> >> > >> June and co-located with P802.3 10GBASE-CX4, P802.3
10GBASE-T
> >> > >> SG, and P802.1.
> >> > >> 3. Developed an initial set of scenarios. See
> >> > >>
>
>>http://www.ieee802.org/linksec/Meetings/MeetingsMaterial/Jan03/LinkSec
Usag
eC
> >>ases_0103.pdf
> >> > >>
> >> > >> 4. A work plan for development of project PAR(s) was
identified.
> >> > >> See
> >> > >>
>
>>http://www.ieee802.org/linksec/Meetings/MeetingsMaterial/Jan03/LinkSec
Work
Pl
> >>an_0103.pdf
> >> > >>
> >> > >> 5. Three technical tutorials will be prepared for next
plenary
> >> > >> meeting to introduce SG participants to the three major
areas
> >> > >> involved in this project. The areas are Bridging, EPON
and
> >> > >> Security. The volunteers to organize or prepare the
tutorials
> >> > >> were: Norm Finn ( nfinn@cisco.com
<mailto:nfinn@cisco.com> )
to
> >> > >> prepare the Bridging tutorial, Jonathan Thatcher (
> >> > >> Jonathan.Thatcher@worldwidepackets.com
> >> > >> <mailto:Jonathan.Thatcher@worldwidepackets.com> ) to
organize
> >> > >> the EPON tutorial, and Bill McIntosh (
> >> > >> bmcintosh@fortresstech.com
<mailto:bmcintosh@fortresstech.com>
> >> > >> ) to prepare the Security tutorial.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Summary of Straw Polls
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> 1. Where should the next LinkSec Interim meeting be held?
> >> > >> Specifically, are you will to go if:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> a. Co-lo with .3 in Seoul - 14
> >> > >>
> >> > >> b. Co-lo with .11 in Singapore - 10
> >> > >>
> >> > >> c. Meet with late may June in Ottawa - 30
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> 2. Who thinks the approach outlined by Mick for development of
the
> >> > >> PAR(s) is a good one?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Yes - 36
> >> > >>
> >> > >> No - 0
> >> > >>
> >> > >> <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns =
> >> > >> "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
> >> > >>
> >> > >> 3. Are you in favor of moving this SG group to 802.1?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Yes - 26
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Negative - 0
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Abstain - 12
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> >Regards,
> >Tony
> >
> >
>
> Regards,
> Tony
>
>