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RE: [802SEC] 802 reflector delays




Bob,  Actually, I think it is a small additive factor which is easily dwarfed by other factors.  The 802ALL list has well over 2500 members yet it doesn't seem to take much longer than the 802SEC list, and either can be randomly very slow.  I suspect message size is a more important factor than list size because of serial vs. parallel.  

Thanx,  Buzz
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-----Original Message-----
From: Grow, Bob [mailto:bob.grow@intel.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 12:06 PM
To: Geoff Thompson; Mike Takefman
Cc: Bill Quackenbush; IEEE 802 SEC
Subject: RE: [802SEC] 802 reflector delays


Comparing WG delays where there are hundreds on the list (600+ for dot3) to the SEC reflector where I assume there are many fewer list members might not be relevant.  List size probably is a multiplier of delays caused by other factors.

--Bob Grow

-----Original Message-----
From: Geoff Thompson [mailto:gthompso@nortelnetworks.com]
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 11:09 AM
To: Mike Takefman
Cc: Bill Quackenbush; IEEE 802 SEC
Subject: Re: [802SEC] 802 reflector delays



The delays may be somewhat related to the occasional inability that I 
encounter for my browser to be able to access IEEE web pages.

Geoff


At 09:09 PM 3/6/2003 -0500, Mike Takefman wrote:

>For what it is worth, some (but not all) members of my
>WG had larger delays receiving some messages from our
>reflector. I've sent an email to the majordomo-owner
>to see if there is something that they noticed.
>
>mike
>
>Bill Quackenbush wrote:
> >
> > All,
> >
> > Two recent messages from Howard Frazier to the 802.3ah (EFM) reflector
> > have has succeded where I failed.  Note the timestamps.
> >
> > -------------------
> >
> > Received:
> >                           from ruebert.ieee.org ([140.98.193.10]) by
> > prserv.net (in1) with ESMTP id <2003030621473310100fu06ce>;
> >                           Thu, 6 Mar 2003 21:47:33 +0000
> >                  Received:
> >                           (from daemon@localhost) by ruebert.ieee.org
> > (Switch-2.2.5/Switch-2.2.5) id h265QmH07762 for
> >                           stds-802-3-efm-resent; Thu, 6 Mar 2003
> > 00:26:48 -0500 (EST)
> >                Message-ID:
> >                           <3E66DB29.9040405@dominetsystems.com>
> >                      Date:
> >                           Wed, 05 Mar 2003 21:22:49 -0800
> >                     From:
> >                           Howard Frazier <millardo@dominetsystems.com>
> >
> > --------------------
> >
> > Received:
> >                           from ruebert.ieee.org ([140.98.193.10]) by
> > prserv.net (in3) with ESMTP id <20030306213849103034agn6e>;
> >                           Thu, 6 Mar 2003 21:38:50 +0000
> >                  Received:
> >                           (from daemon@localhost) by ruebert.ieee.org
> > (Switch-2.2.5/Switch-2.2.5) id h266BVC27435 for
> >                           stds-802-3-efm-resent; Thu, 6 Mar 2003
> > 01:11:31 -0500 (EST)
> >                Message-ID:
> >                           <3E66E57D.6010102@dominetsystems.com>
> >                      Date:
> >                           Wed, 05 Mar 2003 22:06:53 -0800
> >                     From:
> >                           Howard Frazier <millardo@dominetsystems.com>
> >
> > ---------------------
> >
> > The first message was sent by Howard at 05:22:49 GMT, received by
> > ruebert.ieee.org at 05:26:48 GMT and was received from ruebert.ieee.org
> > at 21:47:33 GNT, a delay by ruebert.ieee.org of 16 hours, 20 min and 45 
> sec.
> >
> > The second message was sent by Howard at 06:06:53 GMT, received by
> > ruebert.ieee.org at 06:11:31 GMT and was received from ruebert.ieee.org
> > at 21:38:50 GNT, a delay by ruebert.ieee.org of 15 hours, 27 min and 19 
> sec.
> >
> > ruebert.ieee.org is the same reflector used by the 802 SEC alias.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > wlq
>
>--
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