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RE: [802SEC] Motion on 802 News Bulletin (Next Iteration)



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Mark,
 
Given the changes the LMSC P&P is undergoing at the moment I've tried to put a moratorium on further changes on the P&P for now.
 
If Paul insists, then I will do it.  If we can live with things somewhat out of scope for now, I would prefer it.  Or else, you are welcome to initiate that change.  Use one of my recent P&P revisions as boiler plate if you want to do it yourself.
 
Thanks,
 
Mat
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Klerer Mark
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 5:54 PM
To: 'Bob O'Hara'; Klerer Mark; stds-802-sec@ieee.org
Subject: RE: [802SEC] Motion on 802 News Bulletin (Next Iteration)

Bob,

 

Sounds good to me.

 

Mat,

 

Can you initiate a rules change to do this based on the Motion. In essence we are looking for section two to reflect this. The text should be amended to read as

 

Each Working Group, Technical Advisory Group, and Executive Committee Study Group Chair shall provide a status report to the Executive Committee Recording Secretary no later than 3 days after the end of closing Executive Committee meeting. This status report shall include a description of the progress made during the week, as well as plans for further work and future meetings. The Recording Secretary shall post these status reports on the 802 web page no later than one week after the close of the Plenary meeting.

 

Bob, I assume that you can live with the "one week" for posting it even if you do not get it until 3 days after the close. Or do we need to change that number?

 

Mark

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob O'Hara [mailto:bob@airespace.com]
Sent:
Wednesday, November 12, 2003 5:37 PM
To: Klerer Mark; stds-802-sec@ieee.org
Subject: RE: [802SEC] Motion on 802 News Bulletin (Next Iteration)

 

Mark,

 

I certainly like this one better than the last.  But, it will still require a rules change ballot and all that entails to officially change the P&P.  I'm willing to look the other way on the one hour part of the current rule, until the rule change is completed.

 -Bob
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Klerer Mark [mailto:M.Klerer@flarion.com]
Sent:
Wednesday, November 12, 2003 2:24 PM
To: Bob O'Hara; Klerer Mark; stds-802-sec@ieee.org
Subject: RE: [802SEC] Motion on 802 News Bulletin (Next Iteration)

Bob

 

I am willing to go with that. I think this will also work for Bob Grow

 

Here is the next attempt:

 

 

Whereas the IEEE 802 News Bulletin has become a standing means by which the IEEE 802 WGs and TAGs disseminate timely information, it is resolved that:

 

1.      The requirement for the WG Chair to deliver  a "Plenary Closing Status Report" to the EC secretary within an hour of the close of the WG meeting be relaxed to  three days  and that this input also be made available to the the 802 News Bulletin coordinator to allow posting of a final version of the News Bulleting one week after the closing of each 802 plenary. 

2.      The WG chair may delegate this responsibility to a WG member.

 

 

Bob O'Hara, if you agree to this in principle can you give me some advice on how to make this "consistent" with the P&P or do we need to propose a change to the P&P.

 

 Please let me have your comments and I will see if we are close to consensus.

 

Mark

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob O'Hara [mailto:bob@airespace.com]
Sent:
Wednesday, November 12, 2003 4:47 PM
To: Klerer Mark; stds-802-sec@ieee.org
Subject: RE: [802SEC] Motion on 802 News Bulletin

 

I vehemently object to eliminating the closing reports from the chairs.  I would support relaxing the requirement as to when that report is required to be provided to the secretary to the three days stated in the motion.  I believe that everything that is required to develop the PR material can be extracted from the closing reports.

 

I will also ask the chair to rule this motion out of order, as it is attempting to make a change to the P&P by a simple motion.

 -Bob
 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org] On Behalf Of Klerer Mark
Sent:
Wednesday, November 12, 2003 1:35 PM
To: 'stds-802-sec@ieee.org'
Subject: [802SEC] Motion on 802 News Bulletin

EC Members,

 

The following constitutes a revision of the Motion dealing with the support of the IEEE 802 News Bulletin.

 

Attached is the reply I received form Karen McCabe on the feasibility of working without a pre-plenary draft of the News Bulletin. She indicates that IEEE staff is willing to work without the pre-meeting input.

 

Bob Grow indicated that he may be willing to support a motion on providing input to the news within 3 days in lieu of the status report due within one hour of the closing of a plenary session.

 

Based on that I would like your comments on the following proposed motion for the closing EC meeting. I will only present if we get a chance of passing the motion otherwise we will take it up next time.

 

 

 

Whereas the IEEE 802 News Bulletin has become the standing means by which the IEEE 802 WGs and TAGs disseminate timely information, it is resolved that:

 

1.    The requirement for the WG Chair to deliver  a "Plenary Closing Status Report" to the EC secretary within an hour of the close of the WG meeting be replaced with the following responsibilities:

1.       The WG chair is responsible for assuring that timely input is provided to the 802 News Bulletin coordinator to facilitate posting of a final version of the News Bulleting one week after the closing of each 802 plenary.  To this end a summary of the  WG accomplishments  shall be provided within three days of the close of the  Plenary session.

2.      The WG chair may delegate this responsibility to a WG member.

 

 

Please let me have your comments and I will see if we are close to consensus.

 

Mark