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Re: [802SEC] Regarding ballot closings



Actually, I suggest that the implementation be that we only specify the
closing date


...and that as long as it makes it by 11:59 pm of that date in Fiji then it
is OK

Geoff

At 03:44 PM 1/5/2005 -0800, John Lemon wrote:
>Rather than create a new "timeless zone" that no on has ever heard of and
>is certainly not standard, I suggest using one of the following (listed in
>decreasing preference):
>
>1) Specify the ending time to be 11:59 PM in the time zone in which the
>person is currently located.
>2) Specify the last minute of the day through one of the following means:
>    a) 11:59 AM UTC of the following day -- truly international, but
> perhaps a bit too difficult for some
>    b) 11:59 PM NUT (Niue Time)
>    c) 11:59 PM BET (Bering Time)
>
>John Lemon
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org]On
>Behalf Of Roger B. Marks
>Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 12:58 PM
>To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
>Subject: Re: [802SEC] Regarding ballot closings
>
>
>Geoff,
>
>Yes, I created the AOE (Anywhere on Earth) deadline a few years ago
>to be geographically neutral. We use it for all 802.16 deadlines. [I
>haven't tried to introduce it to t he Balloting Center.]
>
>AOE isn't a time zone, and there isn't any "11:59 pm AOE". For
>instance, we currently have a deadline of "13 January 2005 AOE". The
>ballot is active as long as, anywhere on earth, 13 January is not yet
>over.
>
>I include in the ballot announcement a link to a web site set to show
>the deadline in major cities. For example, this is "13 January 2005
>AOE":
>         http://tinyurl.com/65vnt
>For this purpose, I program 11:59 pm for clarity.
>
>AOE is documented here:
>         http://ieee802.org/16/aoe.html
>The page includes some other tools for calculating the deadline.
>
>I do believe that the AOE deadline helps to maintain our
>geographically-neutral identity, and I do recommend it throughout 802.
>
>Roger
>
>
>At 11:30 -0800 2005-01-04, Geoff Thompson wrote:
> >Mat-
> >
> >One of the things that I think 802 should do in light of its desire to make
> >itself more internationally oriented is to quite being so US centric (dare
> >I say, even US power-center centric, i.e. Eastern Time) on its ballots.
> >
> >A while back (I believe it was) Roger implemented a time zone called AOE
> >(Anywhere on Earth) which was effectively the last time zone east of the
> >international date line. I believe that all 802 ballots should close at
> >11:59 PM AOE.
> >
> >This would be just one more little step to being country neutral and a
> >little less jingoistic.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >Geoff
>
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