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Re: [802SEC] It doesn't have to be either or



Bob -

Be that as it may, what is incontrovertible is 
that the survey respondents rejected Rome in favour of Vancouver by ~2:1.

Regards,
Tony

At 19:50 27/11/2007, Bob O'Hara (boohara) wrote:
>  Buzz,
>
>You can extrapolate from the data all you 
>like.  The fact is that the members were not 
>asked if Rome was acceptable and we do not know the answer to that question.
>
>  -Bob
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Rigsbee, Everett O [mailto:everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:37 AM
>To: Bob O'Hara (boohara); STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
>Subject: RE: [802SEC] It doesn't have to be either or
>
>
>Bob,  You are conveniently ignoring the 
>responses to Question #5 which asked about hard 
>price ceilings for nNA venues.  May I point out that:
>   - 40% of all respondents said that Room Rates 
> must be $250US/night & Registration Fee $600US, and
>   - 22% of respondents said that Room Rates 
> must be  $350 US/night & Registration Fee  $800US.
>
>That would seem to indicate that 62% of all 
>respondents would not approve of the Rome venue.
>
>That's pretty conclusive in my book.  Our 
>members have spoken ... we just need to listen !!!    :-)
>
>Thanx,  Buzz
>Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
>Boeing IT
>PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
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>everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bob O'Hara (boohara) [mailto:boohara@CISCO.COM]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 9:01 AM
>To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
>Subject: Re: [802SEC] It doesn't have to be either or
>
>I have a point to make with regard to the survey.  Several times it has
>been said that the survey shows that our members have told us they won't
>go to Rome.  A variety of reasons have been asserted for this
>conclusion, the most frequent being the higher cost of that venue.
>
>My problem with this "conclusion" is that the survey data do not support
>it, in any way that you might interpret that data.  The survey asked the
>members to choose between Vancouver and Rome.  The members did.  The
>survey did not ask the follow-up question of "with these prices, would
>you go to Rome, anyway?" or even "Would you go to Rome at these prices?".
>
>Absent an answer to that question, any conclusion that our members have
>rejected going to Rome is only an assertion by the speaker and not
>supported by any data that we have gathered.
>
>  -Bob
>
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