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All: Pat continues to be uncomfotable with the entity proceedure that you have seen. Pat had a number of questions which I will try to answer. 1-The investigation that is refered to in the proceedure includes informing any individual that another has requested that their affiliation should be changed. 2-Pat asks about and individual requesting a move to an entity that was not part of the sponsor ballot when it closed although the individual was part of the ballot group. It is my view that this would not be allowed because this would be contrary to the 802.20 membership and voting rules that this Sponsor Ballot was to be patterned after. 3-The final question that Pat had is will the proceedure be applied to the sponsor ballot in progress The answer is yes. Arnie From: "Pat Thaler" <pthaler@BROADCOM.COM> To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG, greenspana@BELLSOUTH.NET Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++10 Day Ballot+++Opens 07 March Closes 17 March Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:41:42 +0000 Arnie, I had questions about the change of affiliation procedure which you seem to have missed. Here they are again: There is currently a recirculation ballot in progress that will close before the procedure is approved. Is the intent for it to apply to the recirculation in progress? The request can be made by an individual A in the ballot pool regarding the assignment of individual B in the ballot pool. I would think in that case, individual B should be informed of the request and have a chance to respond, but the procedure doesn't say anything regarding this. Perhaps the intent is to cover this under the investigation and consideration by the OC, but I think it should be explicit. The text appears to cover moving an individual from one current bloc to another current bloc. Is that the only type of move permitted? What if someone changes employment to an entity that isn't currently represented in the 802.20 sponsor ballot pool? If a move is from or to the consultant/independent bloc, who qualifies as a representative for the bloc? Pat -----Original Message----- From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG] On Behalf Of greenspana@BELLSOUTH.NET Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 6:59 AM To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++10 Day Ballot+++Opens 07 March Closes 17 March John: Pat and Geoffs comments have been addressed. I am attaching the revised motion. Item 4 of the motion refers to the staw poll as a suvey not a vote, it also states that the survey will be done openly. However those comments were addressed to the motion on a voting proceedure which opened on 06 March and closed on 16 March. You have already voted Approve in respect to that proceedure. This motion is in regard to the handeling of requests for a change in affiliation in the middle of a sponsor ballot. There were comments by Bob and Mike Takefman on this proceedure. All of theur comments have been incorporated. I am attaching the revised proceedures for voting and the handeling of affiliation change to this E-mail. Arnie Arnie -------------- Original message from J Lemon : -------------- > I'm uncomfortable voting until Pat's and Geoff's comments have been > addressed. > > On 3/11/2008 10:56 AM, greenspana@BELLSOUTH.NET wrote: > > All: > > > > The voting status of those eligible to vote on the motion below is as follows: > > > > CH: Paul Nikolich - Did Not Vote > > ES: Buzz Rigsbee - Approve > > RS: Bob O'Hara - Did Not Vote > > TR: John Hawkins - Did Not Vote > > 01: Tony Jeffree - Did Not Vote > > 15: Bob Heile - Did Not Vote > > 17: John Lemon - Did Not Vote > > 18: Mike Lynch - Did Not Vote > > 20: Arnie Greenspan - Approve > > The latest proceedure is attached for your review. If you have not yet voted > and are eligible to do so, please vote. > > Thanks > > > > Arnie > > > > Dear EC Members, > > > > The 802 Chair, Paul Nikolich, has delegated the conduct of the following > motion via 802 EC email ballot to me, Arnie Greenspan. > > > > Moved: The Unconflicted 802 EC members approve the attached > > Procedure, to be used in the event there is a request for a change to an > individuals block assignment during the 802.20 Sponsor ballot. > > Opens: 07 MAR 2008; Closes 17 MAR2008 > > > > Mover: Arnie Greenspan > > Seconder: Buzz Rigsbee > > > > Unconflicted EC (UC EC) members regarding 802.20 WG matters are eligible to > cast a ballot on this issue. > > > > UC EC Voters: > > ---------------- > > CH Paul Nikolich > > ES Buzz Rigsbee > > RS Bob O'Hara > > TR John Hawkins > > 01 Tony Jeffree > > 15 Bob Heile > > 17 John Lemon > > 18 Mike Lynch > > 20 Arnie Greenspan > > ME Geoff Thompson non-voting > > > > EC members not eligible to vote: > > -------------------------------- > > V1 Mat Sherman > > V2 Pat Thaler > > 03 Bob Grow > > 11 Stuart Kerry > > 16 Roger Marks > > 19 Steve Shellhammer > > 21 Vivek Gupta > > 22 Carl Stevenson > > > > > > ---------- > > This email is sent from the 802 Executive Committee email reflector. 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