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Re: [802SEC] Plenary organization



I like Geoff's suggestion and the rationale therefore (despite sharing his
metabolic propensity for not being a "morning person.")

Carl
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org 
> [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Geoff Thompson
> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 2:33 AM
> To: David_Law@3COM.COM
> Cc: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> Subject: Re: [802SEC] Plenary organization
> 
> Colleagues-
> 
> An alternate suggestion to David's as put forth below.
> 
> I would suggest that We keep the Monday EC as it is for two reasons:
>    - Many of our North American attendees travel on Monday morning.
>      David's proposal (and that of others) would force (or at least
>      heavily nudge) a much larger chunk of our rank and file to
>      travel on the weekend. While this may seem like no big deal to
>      those of use (a) who are officers and/or (b) come from overseas,
>      it is significant to many new participants who have not yet
>      committed themselves to working with us and, in particular,
>      those who have young families. These are participants who
>      will vote with their feet.
> 
>    - My experience over the last 25 years has shown that the quality
>      of EC meetings is significantly handicapped by the late evening
>      format. That time slot has, in my strong opinion, demonstrated
>      a lower level of EC performance, diligence and collegiality.
>      Thus I think it would be a bad idea for the EC to go to an
>      evening time slot. (I say this in spite of my personal metabolism
>      which gives me an early morning handicap.)
> 
> I would offer an alternate to get more meeting time. That 
> would be to eliminate the Monday tutorials and have initial 
> TF meetings on Monday evening. Tuesday evening would be 
> tutorials and the Wednesday Social would remain.
> 
> I believe that this set-up would provide the following advantages:
>    - Lowest burn-out factor for the largest number of people
>    - The evening TF day at the front of the week when folks 
> are relatively fresh.
>    - Lowest disturbance to room allocations/catering and thus 
> to ou hotel contracts.
>    - At least 3 hours of additional TF time.
> 
> I look forward to our discussions on this topic in Dallas.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Geoff Thompson
> 
> At 10:02 AM 10/20/2008 , David Law wrote:
>  >Hi Steve,
>  >
>  >What is proposed here would give the WGs approximately 1.5 
> hours extra  >daytime meeting time Monday - allowing the WG 
> to start at 10:30AM - and  >two extra evenings - eliminate 
> Tuesday tutorial and the Wednesday social -  >which is a start.
>  >
>  >I however still think we should consider [1] moving the 
> Opening EC to  >Sunday evening to allow a full day of WG 
> meetings Monday and/or [2] moving  >the closing EC to allow a 
> half day of WG meetings Friday morning. Allowing  >WGs to 
> meet Friday morning would also make Thursday evening 
> available for  >WG meetings - and I would suggest that might 
> be a better approach rather  >than eliminating the Tuesday 
> tutorial or the social.
>  >
>  >I do realize that what I suggest places a greater burden on 
> all-ready  >overworked EC members, but I believe we should do 
> everything possible to  >allow the WGs the maximum time to do work.
>  >
>  >Best regards,
>  >  David
>  >
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> <STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org>  >wrote on 18/10/2008 13:56:42:
>  >
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** [mailto:
>  > STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Shellhammer, Steve  > 
> Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 11:01 PM  > To: 
> STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG  > Subject: Re: [802SEC] 
> Plenary organization  >  > All,  >
>  >         I am NOT in favor of the following,
>  >
>  > 1.      Moving Monday EC meeting to Sunday
>  > 2.      Moving Friday meeting to Thursday night
>  >
>  >         However, I agree with some other ideas,
>  >
>  > 1.      Eliminate the 802 plenary and shorten the Monday 
> EC meeting.
>  > Get everything done by 10 AM so the WG's can start by 10:30 AM.
>  >
>  > 2.      Eliminate the social.
>  >
>  > 3.      Go from one night for Tutorials.  Alternatively, make a
>  > deadline of 35 days before the meeting to commit to 
> tutorials.  That  > way if we only have one night worth of 
> tutorials we can give Tuesday  > to the WGs.  They would know 
> 35 days in advance and could plan  > accordingly.  They could 
> get their agendas out 30 days in advance.
>  >
>  > Regards,
>  > Steve
> 
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