March 5-6, 2001

Chairman Barry Skoras called the meeting to order at 8:00 AM, on Monday, March 5, 2001, in Stateline, NV. With nineteen (19) members attending. Chairman Skoras welcomed the following:

a.) New SC-4 members: John Pollock, David Sehi, Mike Tucker, and Tom McCaffrey.

b.) Alternates: Raj Patel for Roger Parker

c.) Guests: None

2 Agenda Review

The agenda was reviewed and re-arrangements of the item schedule were made.

3 General Announcements

• Standards Development

• IEEE web site on Standards Development a good source for policy and procedures. A link will be added to the SC-4 website.

• Some training modules are also available on the IEEE site.

• Standards Association membership is required to be able to ballot standards.

• The IEEE site now includes a "members only" area.

• George Attarian asked for assistance on the policy of resolving negative ballots. A discussion ensued on the subject and including coordination of ballots (do not need to specify on the PAR effective 1/1/2001), and forming a ballot pool, and on negative ballot resolution, which ballot population needs to be reballoted.

• Ballot pools can not have more than 50% in the general interest group. No group can be greater than 50% of the pool.

• John Carter volunteered to be the SC-4 "Standards Expert" whose role would be also to keep track of rules and by-law changes in the area of the standards development process.

• Technical Presentations will be made at the NEI / INPO Grid Reliability Workshop, April 2 – 4, 2001 in Philadelphia, PA by three members of SC4. The NEI / INPO sponsored workshop is an effort to foster increased communication of grid reliability issues, activities, and lessons learned. The presentations are:

• Application of degraded voltage relaying at Arizona Public Service, Harvey Leake

• FirstEnergy Power Grid Stability Assessment for the Perry, Davis-Besse and Beaver Valley Nuclear Power Plants - Roger Parke

• IEEE Standard 765, Standard for Preferred Power Supply for Nuclear Power Generating Stations, G. Attarian

• John Carter was presented a plaque by Barry Skoras for his service as Chairman of SC-4 for the last 3 years.

4 Review of S00-02 Minutes: No comments

George Attarian moved the Minutes be accepted, seconded by Dale Goodney. The motion was unanimously carried.

5 Membership Action Items

Following Action Items are closed: 315, 317, 316. As an update to item 316 ( Attarian: Contact John Kueck regarding status of paper on "Risk Factors for Degraded Grid Voltage Relays") the paper has been in the review cycle by IEEE for approximately 1.5 years. IEEE has suggested giving the paper to NPEC to be reviewed. IEEE is having difficulty in getting adequate technical reviewers. Tom Sims gave some background on the process. Harvey Leake suggested to have SC-4 members be the reviewers. Tucker, Mindick, and Hara volunteered to be reviewers.

The following action item remain open or is new:

Item Assigned Date Action

318 Carter 11/15/00 Contact Standards Coordinating Committee about a presentation on Batteries for S01-2

400 Skoras 3/5/01 Contact IEEE to try and find reviewers for the proposed paper.

401 Leake 3/5/01 Email copies of IEEE proposed paper and IEEE 765 annex to SC-4 secretary for distribution to membership.

402 Skoras 3/5/01 Determine how to get in ballot pool for Battery Standards

403 Tucker 3/5/01 Contact Bob Beavers to determine what is going on with Battery Standards.

404 Skoras 3/5/01 Contact J. Kueck, R. Weronick, and P. Szabados about SC-4 participation

405 Skoras 3/5/01 Extend Corresponding Membership offer to Wolfgang Michel. Extend Membership to John Malanda.

406 Nicely 3/5/01 Draft whitepaper on use of LTC transformers at nuclear plants. Present at S01-02.

6 Summary of NPEC Activities & NPEC Areas of Interest

• The next NPEC meeting N01-01 will be meeting after SC-4 S01-01 in Stateline, NV. Future meetings are as follows: N01-02 is scheduled for San Diego, CA. Subcommittees will meet on November 5^th and morning of the 6^th. AdCom will meet on the afternoon of November 6^th. NPEC general meeting will be November 7^th. N02-01 in South Carolina. N02-02 in Monterrey, CA. N03-01 is open. N03-02 will be meeting with ANS. A few items related to the last NPEC meeting N00-02 were discussed:

• NPEC has new officers beginning with N01-01. They are as follows:

Chairman - Neil Smith

Vice Chairman - John Carter

Secretary - John Disosway

Standards Coordinator - Jim Thomas

• SC-4 now has 9 members on NPEC with Jerry Nicely being the newest replacing Ken Greene of TVA.

• NPEC wants to establish a standards hierarchy chart. WG chairs should review and get comments back to NPEC.

• John MacDonald received NPEC Certification of Appreciation for service as SC-4 Secretary.

• Jerry Nicely received NPEC Certification of Appreciation for SC-4 Web Page Development.

7 SC-4 Membership Up-date and Assignments

Pranab Guha has submitted his resignation from SC-4.

According to the SC-4 Operations Reference, SC-4 members must attend 3 out of 4 meetings.

Barry Skoras to contact J. Kueck, R. Weronick, and P. Szabados about SC-4 participation.

The following new members have no working group assignments: Bonner, McCaffrey, Bysfield, Sehi, Tucker. Bonner was assigned to IEEE 317 WG. Tucker was assigned to IEEE WG’s 387, 741, and 628.

Tom McCaffrey volunteered to be the liaison with SCC on Battery Standards.

Discussion was held concerning new member recommendation from John Carter for Wolfgang Michel, an NPEC member from Siemens AG of Germany. Due to travel constraints he would only be able to attend a maximum of one meeting a year if it coincides with the NPEC meeting. The SC-4 membership voted (18 affirmative) to extend Corresponding Membership to Mr. Michel. Barry Skoras to make extent offer to him during NPEC meeting.

John Carter said that Ijas Mand from Texas Utilities has expressed interest in SC-4 membership.

Ray Weronick recommended John Mallanda for membership. The SC-4 membership voted (19 affirmative) to extend membership to John.

8 Status of Standards

WG 4.1, IEEE 308 "IEEE Standard Criteria for Class 1E Power Systems for Nuclear Power Generating Stations":

This is a complete major revision. PAR has been approved. The standard has been balloted and comment resolution is complete. One negative ballot was received. Standard will be sent out for re-ballot before S01-02.

WG 4.2, IEEE 387 "IEEE Standard Criteria for Diesel-Generator Units Applied as Standby Power for Nuclear Power Generating Stations":

Last re-affirmed in 1995. The re-affirmation balloting is complete and are affirmative. The re-affirmation request has been submitted to IEEE Mar 01 RevCom.

WG 4.3, IEEE 317 "IEEE Standard for Electric Penetration Assemblies in Containment Structures for Nuclear Power Generating Stations":

Reaffirmed in 1996. No new issues to date. Must be either revised or reaffirmed by 2001. Working Group reformed to start re-affirmation process. Received permission for re-affirmation ballot.

WG 4.4, IEEE 1290 "Guide for MOV Motor Application, Protection, Control and Testing in Nuclear Power Generating Stations":

The standard has recently been re-affirmed in 2000. No action this period.

WG 4.6, IEEE 765 "Preferred Power Supply for Nuclear Power Plants":

Issued in 1995. Must be either revised or reaffirmed by 2000. PAR has been approved. Standard revision by the Working Group is complete and has been presented to the subcommittee to establish "Guidelines for Offsite Power Reliability in a Deregulated Environment". The revision has been balloted and in the process of comment resolution. All comments resolved. Ready for re-balloting.

WG 4.7, IEEE 741 "IEEE Standard Criteria for the Protection of Class 1E Power Systems and Equipment in Nuclear Power Generating Stations":

Issued in 1997. No new issues to date. Must be either revised or reaffirmed by 2002. In process of publishing IEEE paper on the industry issues surrounding degraded voltage relaying schemes. Need PAR by S01-02.

WG 4.8 IEEE 833 "IEEE Recommended Practice for the Protection of Electric Equipment in Nuclear Power Generating Stations from Water Hazards":

Reaffirmed in 1994. The standard is currently in revision to address new outstanding issues. Was previewed to NPEC at N00-1. The revision is ready to ballot. Ballot pool needs forming.

WG 4.9, IEEE 628 "IEEE Standard Criteria for the Design, Installation and Qualification of Raceway for Class 1E Circuits in Nuclear Power Generating Stations":

A revision has been balloted and approved by IEEE RevCom and IEEE Standards board.

9 Presentations

Technical Presentations were made by six SC-4 Members. These presentations generated lively discussions and were timely, given the industry activity on the impact of the offsite power grids on nuclear units. The presentations were:

Open Discussion: Use of Transformer Auto Load Tap Changers -J. Nicely, TVA

Topic: Failure/Investigation of SQN2 ASEA LV Bushing -J. Nicely, TVA

Topic: Real-Time Reactive Reserve - T. Sims, Southern Company

Topic: INPO Evaluation of SOER 99-01 - G. Attarian, Progress Energy

Topic: The California Experience - A. Wong, PG & E

Open Discussion: NERC Required Generator Testing/Modeling; APS Experience - J. Nicely, TVA, and H. Leake, Arizona Public Service

Topic: SONGS 4kV Breaker Failure - K. Hara, Southern Cal Edison

10 SC-4 Webpage Update

Jerry Nicely up-dated members on current information to be found on the webpage.

11 Liaison Reports

Reports were given by members present. Contact secretary if a copy of reports is required.

SC-2 - Qualification:

G. Attarian was Liaison and has transferred responsibility to J. Pollock.

SC-3 - Operations, Surveillance and Testing:

P. Gill is Liaison.

SC-6 - Safety Related Systems:

W. Mindick is Liaison.

SC-7 - Human Factors and Control Facilities:

D. Goodney is Liaison.

NRC

P. Gill is Liaison.

ED&PGC Station Design Subcommittee:

J. Stoner is the Liaison.

12 Items of Interest - Membership Experiences Since Last Meeting

In a "Roundtable" format, SC-4 members attending reported on topics of interest to the group from their recent experiences at their company, plant or job function. Copies of the reports submitted to the secretary by March 19th will be sent by the secretary to all SC-4 members. Should anyone need another hard copy, contact the secretary.

13 Future Meetings

S01-02: October 8 & 9, 2001, St. Petersburg, FL.

S02-01: Spring, 2002. May be with NPEC, in SC.

S02-02: Fall, 2002, TBD (NPEC planning for Monterrey, CA).

14 Presentations planned for next meeting

Carter - SCC Battery Standards

Hara - Followup to Songs Breaker Failure

Tucker - Power Upgrades

Leake - SOER 99-01 Followup

Nicely - Use of LTC Transformers at TVA Nuclear.

15 Reptile Fund

Balance received from J. MacDonald - $45.22

Collected at S01-01 - $190.00

Paid to B. Skoras for S01-01 refreshments - $135.00

Balance brought forward: $100.22

16 Adjournment

Chairman Skoras gave a special thanks to the topic presenters for their contributions at S01-01.

A motion to adjourn was made by Attarian and seconded by Nicely . The motion was carried.

 

Submitted by: Jerry L Nicely, Secretary SC-4 31July 2001

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