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Minutes – 16-18 August 1998 Meeting of the Incident Management Working Group

16 August, 1998 Coordination Session held at the Ramada Inn Northgate Way, Seattle, WA
 

17 August, 1998

08:00 Welcome/Intro/Remarks C. Chandler

Announced his appointment as Chair by R. Gottschaulk and provided a short summary of his position with Florida DOT and his experience with ITS. C.H.Chandler@ieee.org is his email address. Introduced Andy MacFarland of the Phoenix Fire Department as the newly-appointed Vice Chair. He summarized his experience with CAD systems and with the International CAD Consortium, as well as recent work with a interconnection between Phoenix and Chandler, and soon with Mesa CAD systems.

Attendees introduced themselves to the group. Attendance roster:

  • Ken Brooke Mitretek Systems (703) 488-5719 ken@mitretek.org
  • Ron Burch Phoenix Fire Dept (602) 256-3421 rburch@ci.phoenix.az.us
  • Andy MacFarlane Phoenix Fire Dept (602) 262-7814 amacfar@ci.phoenix.az.us
  • Bruce Churchill NET (619) 467-4323 bchurch@la.nateng.com
  • Kuniran Rajendra Mich DOT (517) 335-2893 rajendrak@state.mi.us
  • James Mona Conn DOT (860) 594-3450 i95mona@aol.com
  • Kurt Aufschneider NJ DOT (609) 866-4980 kurtaufschnieder@dot.state.nj.us
  • Tom Kurihara IEEE (703) 516-9650 t.kurihara@ieee.org
  • Edward Mark NYS DOT (212) 255-2706 emark@garden.state.ny.us
  • Jerry Althauser WS DOT (206) 726-6752 althau@wsdot.gov
  • David Helman FHWA/Wash DC (202) 366-8042 david.helman@hwa.dot.gov
  • Ron Ice National Architecture (714) 777-1297 rcice@pacbell.net
  • David Kelley Sub Carrier Syst (628) 915-4488 davidkelley@earthlink.net
  • S. Robert Miller NENA (609) 401-1734 spsp28a@prodigy.com
  • Ken Vaughn Viggen Corp (703) 925-3814 jolathrop@aol.com
  • Chester Chandler FL DOT (850) 921-0973 c.h.chandler@ieee.org

  • C. Chandler continued the appointment of Ken Brooke as Secretary, appointed D. Kelley as Tech Editor, J. Lathrop as ballot coordinator, and affirmed Trish Gerden as the working group’s staff liaison with IEEE.

    The current subcommittees have been discontinued.

    Formal voting rules will be issued to govern the conduct of business. Note: all decisions that are indicated to have been made by the working group in these and future minutes were made "without objection" (unanimously) unless indicated otherwise.

    A new agenda item for tomorrow will be future plans. Tues 08:00-10:00 led by T. Kurihara.

    New working group members and new coordination organizations will be considered.

    Agenda changes.

    8:30 Tues. Draft standard presentation.

    Lunch Monday discussion regarding conformance with 1488/1489. Lunch will be in the building. An incident response truck will be available for inspection in front of the bldg during lunch. Tour of the TMC at 10:00. Settled plans for Mon evening activity.

    An HL7 Presentation will be given 8:00 Tues by Ron Burch.

    Minutes from 18-19 June meeting were accepted as posted on the web page.

    D. Helman provided a short briefing on the proposed activities of the SPWG of the ITSA ESC. He solicited comments from the group to carry back with him to the ESC. Concern was expressed regarding scheduled working group activities that depend upon products from the ESC work.

    Action Item for group members to review and comment on the proposed plan.

    ITE ITS Council Traffic Incident Management Committee has been formed. J. Corbin is both the co-chair and point of contact.

    J. Mona provided two articles for sharing with the group. D. Kelley will provide the URL for the FCC article for the minutes.

    No outstanding action items or old business remain from the August meeting.

    NEW BUSINESS

    D. Kelley and J. Lathrop made an overview presentation on the current draft of the standard.

    K. Brooke will provide some words for Section 3 definitions and appropriate text later in the document that wraps in coordination activities into the IC role.

    R. Ice made a short presentation regarding Version 2 of the ITS National Architecture, which has just been completed. These changes affect the Emergency Management subsystem.

    It was decided to move location out of the message header and into the appropriate messages. Also, to generalize location referencing to embrace all LRMS profiles. The sending center’s ID was removed from the header, since it would be provided by the protocol.

    Time-stamping needs to be made more versatile to accommodate sequences of actions taken by a center and passed to another center, even though the information itself hasn’t changed. This affects the UpdateTime, UpdateCount, and UpdateType.

    The concept of data reliability was discussed and tabled.

    Management center Ids and names were deleted as data elements.

    IncidentStatus was moved out of the header into appropriate message bodies.
     

    18 August, 1998

    08:00 AZTech Project Presentation by Andy MacFarlane. This presentation will be loaded onto the web site and attached to these minutes.

    09:50 LRMS presentation from John Lau was given by Ken Brooke

    P1512 Project Planning. T. Kurihara led a discussion of future direction for the group.

    A presentation on Smart Trek was given by WS DOT, http://www.smarttrek.org/ Eldon Jacobson.

    Completing the P1512 future activity planning discussion:

    Options:

    P1512 out "now" (October)? -As is (revised from 8/17-18)

    -Trimmed? How?

    Extend to "I" topics? -Which ones? Do any of II? -Which ones? Do any of III? -Which ones?
    Unable to resolve at this time, so the group turned to re-examining the IDX message to correct it. A lengthly discussion ensued. One concern dealt with the method of compliance. It appeared that either:
    1. A compliant system would not need to include any optional message elements in its design, or
    2. A compliant system would need to handle all messages and their elements contained in the standard, including optional ones.
    A. Moved and Seconded: that compliant systems’ design must accommodate both mandatory and optional message elements, even if some optional message elements are not used during system operations. Guidance will be included that directs the user to other message sets.
      Moved to amend the motion by changing compliant to conformant. Passed.

      Amended motion passed.

    B. Moved and Seconded: To pare down the number of IM data elements to the smallest non-redundant acceptable subset of the TM, TCIP, ATIS, and MAYDAY message sets to cover between EM-TM. To organize these data elements into meaningful structures.
      Moved and seconded to amend to allow the generation of new IM data elements. Passed unanimously. Note that conformance with P1489 and P1488 was not addressed.

      Amended motion passed unanimously.

    C. Moved and seconded to accept our new Chair and Vice Chair with thanks. Passed unanimously.

    D. Moved and seconded to:

    Complete p1512, conduct a table top exercise (Phase 1)

    Conduct an operational test, write a implementation guide for P1512, coordinate with the other std committees, outreach and work with ITSA ESC, refine scenarios and evaluation from Phase 1 table top exercise (Phase 2).

    Evaluate the operational test, incorporate other selected interfaces, develop an EM DD (Phase 3).

    Passed unanimously.

    The following near-term schedule was adopted:

    Teleconference 10 Sep 12:00 EST.

    Teleconference schedule & details will be published.

    Consultants will publish the next revision to the WG 28 Sep.

    Members comments back by 12 Oct.

    Revision out by 16 Oct.

    Next meeting 22 & 23 Oct. This will include a one-hour practice on the tabletop exercise. Meeting location will be Phoenix.

    Tabletop exercise 2-3 Nov.

    Adjourned

      


    Respectfully submitted,

     

    Ken Brooke

    Secretary