DRAFT

Minutes – 26-28 April Meeting of the Incident Management Working Group

Orleans Hotel, Las Vegas, NV

Held in conjunction with the

IAFC Fire-Rescue Med Convention

Chaired by Chester Chandler, Florida Department of Transportation - Turnpike District

Attendees


Name
Organization
Email
phone
Ken Brooke Mitretek Systems ken@mitretek.org 202-488-5719
John Lau SAIC johnl@usit.net

john.w.lau@cpmx.saic.com

423-481-2375
John Corbin WISDOT-DIST. 2 john.corbin@dot-state.wi.us 414-227-2150
Ron Ice R. C. Ice & Associates rcice@pacbell.net 714-777-1297
Wayne Gisler Harris County/Houston Transtar wayne_gisler@co.harris.tx.us 713-881-3189
Mike Ogden Klote Associates mike.ogden@klote.com 281-589-7257
Randy Ronning Caltrans HQ randy.ronning@dot.ca.gov 916-654-7312
Robert B. "Tip" Franklin, Jr. Lockheed Martin robert.b.franklin@lmco.com 303-971-5738
John Lathrop Strategic Insights jolathrop@aol.com 650-941-4950
Bo Strickland AASHTO strickbo@aol.com 703-281-6510
Kurt Aufschneider NJDOT kurtaufschneider@dot.state.nj.us 609-866-4980
James Mona ConnDOT i-95jmona@aol.com 860-594-3450
Jerry Althauser WSDOT althaug@wsdot.wa.gov 206=726-6752
Ann Lorscheider NCDOT alorscheider@dot.state.nc.us 919-250-4151
Paul E. Thorpe Open Systems Solutions thorpe@oss.com 732-249-5107
David Kelley Sub Carrier Systems davidkelley@socketcity.com 626-915-4488
Andy Macfarlane Phoenix Fire Department amacfarl@ci.phoenix.az.us 602-262-7814
Chester H. Chandler Florida DOT c.h.chandler@ieee.org 850-921-0973
Andy Schoka Mitretek Systems schoka@mitretek.org 202-488-5702
James M. Cheeks ITE jcheeks@vax.ite.org 202-554-8050 x131
Edward L. Mark NYSDOT emark@gw.dot.state.ny.us 914-451-5701
Dave Helman   FHWA    
 Tom Kurihara TKstds Management  tkstds@mindspring.com 703-516-9650 

 
 

Monday, 26 April

Old Business

Minutes from Phoenix approved as corrected:

    1. Kunwar's name was misspelled.
    2. Jerry Althouser’s state is Washington
    3. Warren Tighe’s affiliation is with Gartner Systems
    4. Ann Lorscheider’s state is North Carolina.
    5. Mike Ogden
    6. John Corbin
Agenda

The proposed agenda for today was adopted.

The following agenda items were added:

    1. Membership
    2. Testing, Battelle Labs
    3. Training/Guides
    4. Data Registry
    5. ITSA Deployment
    6. LRMS for incident management
    7. BAH implementation guide
    8. PSAP external interface issues
Current Events

Chester Chandler described Battelle Labs’ testing effort.

The P1512 standard has been included on the TEA-21 list of critical standards, both as a national standard and as a foundation standard.

Copies of Chester Chandler’s ITSA presentation on P1512 will be sent to Ann Lorscheider,
Kurt Aufschneider, and Andy Schoka.
 
 

Arrivals and Departures

Ken Brooke is departing the working group and transferring to a new project with the Washington, DC Metropolitan Police Department.

Timothy Schoch, ARTEMIS (tim.schoch@trw.com) is a new member.

John Nevia, TRW (jhnevis@aol.com) is a new member.

Andy MacFarlane will pursue recruiting members from the COMCARE Alliance.

John C. Allen of the ICF Consulting Group volunteered for membership, and is a candidate for the HAZMAT volume sub working group.

Wayne Gisler (wayne-gisler@co.harris.tx.us)

Andy Schoka

Mike Ogden
 
 

ITE TIM Committee Report from John Corbin

The IMWG is invited to participate in the 5 May 99 conference call at 10:00 CDT, (312) 470-0009, Code 27062.

On June 7, ITE is sponsoring an IM training session.
 
 

Reports from Officers

No reports were given.
 
 

Announcements

Tom Kurihara is now the ISO TC204 TAG liaison.

An ITS Council has been established in IEEE.

Tip Franklin has set up a tour for Tuesday evening with the Las Vegas Area Control of Traffic Signalization Center.

Wayne Gisler and Mike Ogden were nominated as co-Secretary.

The sub working group leaders were realigned to the following:

1512.1, Traffic Management, Tip Franklin

1512.2, Public Safety, Andy MacFarlane

1512.3, HAZMAT, Vacant

1512a, Emergency Management Data Dictionary

The general meeting format for future working group meetings was set by Chester Chandler to be an initial joint meeting, then the sub working groups will meet in split session, and the entire group will rejoin for an ending session.
 
 

Meeting schedule for 1999:

Motion by tip Franklin, seconded by Ken Brooke to defer the tabletop exercise (TTX) until the companion 1512 volumes were started.

Motion to amend by Ann Lorscheider, seconded by Andy MacFarlane to encourage holding a mini TTX prior to the large TTX.

Amendment passed with 12 yes, 0 no, and 2 not voting.

Amended motion passed with 9 yes, 5 no, and 5 not voting.

The list of balloters is due to Trish Gerden by 3 May.

Edits and comments on the draft standard resolved between 3 May and 14 May.

The final draft to be posted on the web page by 17 May.

The consensus working group vote on the final draft to be held 24 May to 26 May.

Approved draft to SCC32 by 27 May.

End of 30-day ballot invitation on 7 June.

45-day ballot period from 14 June – 28 Jul.

Next IMWG meeting to be held in Minneapolis, MN 11-13 Aug, in conjunction with the APCO conference.

Next following IMWG meeting to be held in Washington, DC 3-5 Nov, which will be a workshop with TTX.
 
 

Tuesday, 27 April

The working group decided to post a critical discussion issue on the Fire-Rescue Med conference bulletin board in an effort to attract attendees and involve them in a discussion with the group. "Real-Time Interagency Information Exchange."

Reference John Lathrop’s "Thought-Starters for Work Plan for P1512"

The group agreed that policy should be decided on the following, without devolving into ASN.1 technical discussions:

Structures

IM LRMS

Optional Data Items

Data Registration

Steward

Submitter

A need was identified to add the solicitation, incorporation, and utilization of volunteer effort into work plans.

Kurt Aufschneider moved to do P1512.1, P1512.2, P1512.3, and P1512a concurrently in five calendar quarters of effort. Seconded by Ed Mark.

Jim Mona moved to amend by deleting "in five calendar quarters." Seconded by Jerry Althouser. Approved 10 Yes, 3 No, 2 Not Voting.

Amended motion approved 12 Yes, 1 No, 2 Not Voting.

Kurt Aufschneider moved to leave data elements in Section 6 and add note that data elements will be included in Volume a. Approved 7 Yes, 4 No, 6 Not Voting!

The group decided not to import the P1489-required meta-attributes into P1512.
 
 

Ballot Pool Formation

Chester Chandler will submit a list to SCC32 regarding adding the following in time for the 26 June Standards Board meeting:

David Helman

Ed Mark

Kurt Aufschneider

Wayne Gisler

Mike Ogden

Ron Ice

Randy Ronning

Kunwar Rajendra

Ken Brooke

Jack Brown

Chester Chandler will also seek clarification from T. Gerden regarding adding all working group members to the ballot pool.
 
 

Fire-Rescue Critical Issues Discussion

The following medics responded to the group’s invitation, and participated in a lively discussion

Joe Aldworth, City of Madison Fire Department, (608) 266-4201, jAldworth.com.net

Mike Dobson, Sacramento County Fire Department, (916) 636-1800

Thomas V. Lyons, Jr., City of Clifton, NJ Fire Department, (973)471-7288, tvlyons@aol.com

Ken Hines, Garden City MI Fire Department, (734) 422-1416, khines@gcfd.org

Jerry Allen, Murrieta Fire Department, CA, (909) 677-5511, murrfire@e22.net

Dwaine Booth, Pinellas County, FL EMS/Fire Admin, (727)582-2000, dbooth@co.inellas.fl.us

Keith Gault, Sacramento Fire Department, (916) 264-8100, gault@inreach.com

The discussion generated the following talking points:

Location is extremely important. The last/next sign seen can be the only location information provided. Tenth mile markers are useful, but clear standard signage is needed.

The mechanism of injury provides important information, and layman’s terminology is acceptable.

HAZMAT information is critical.

Information status boards are useful for informing motorists.

Route closure is a critical process, which is done to protect responders and victims.
 

Booze, Allen, Hamilton (BAH) Presentation

BAH, Sam Subramaniam (703) 598-6110, made a presentation regarding their Incident Management Implementation Guide, a FHWA contract under Joe Peters.
 
 

Wednesday, 28 April

Andy MacFarlane made a presentation on the 1512.x workplan outline:

Andy MacFarlane will fill in the outline to produce draft workplans, and John Corbin will assist by providing the schedules.

Then, the workplans will be coordinated through Chester Chandler.

Then they will be posted on the web site for group review.

Then they will be submitted through SCC32.

Andy Schoka and Ron Ice were appointed to manage the EMDD database.

Robert Lockhard (Deputy Chief, Arlington Heights Fire Department, 33 South Arlington Heights Rd., Arlington heights, IL 60005; (847) 358-5457, rlockhart@vah.com ) stopped in at the group’s invitation and discussed his experiences with implementing a large, multi-departmental EMS information reporting system.

Action Item Summary

    1. John Lau will float a proposal for an incident management location referencing system (LRMS) via the reflector.  Chester Chandler will send thank you notes to the medic attendees Tues afternoon and Chief Lockhart, and to BAH for their presentation.
    2. Wayne and Mike will be confirmed as co-Secretaries
    3. All members will submit their final comments to the consultants by 3 May, with a resolution teleconference to be held on 1 June.
    4. David Kelley will hold an informal face-to-face meeting in Washington, DC on 14 May.
    5. Andy MacFarlane will submit workplans to Chester Chandler by 15 May.
    6. Chester Chandler will meet with SCC32 to provide a P1512 update upon his return.
    7. Andy MacFarlane will continue to recruit NENA, Paul Eirenhoffer, John Allen, Timothy Schoch, and John Nevin.
    8. Mike Ogden will check with TTI re webmaster support.
    9. P1512a database administration will be handled by Andy Schoka and Ron Ice.
    10. TTX and workshop will be held 3-5 Nov, partly at the NFA and partly in Washington, DC.
    11. Chester Chandler will email the P1512 schedule to Jerry Walker.
    12. The consultants will make the technical and editorial changes to the draft standard.
    13. Ken Brooke will post the minutes to the web site.
There being no further business, and due to the lateness of the hour, the meeting was adjourned at 17:30 on 28 April 1999.
 
 

Respectfully submitted,

ken