Minutes – 26-28 April Meeting of the Incident Management Working Group
Orleans Hotel, Las Vegas, NV
Held in conjunction with the
IAFC Fire-Rescue Med Convention
Chaired by Chester Chandler, Florida Department of Transportation - Turnpike District
Attendees
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| Ken Brooke | Mitretek Systems | ken@mitretek.org | 202-488-5719 |
| John Lau | SAIC | johnl@usit.net | 423-481-2375 |
| John Corbin | WISDOT-DIST. 2 | john.corbin@dot-state.wi.us | 414-227-2150 |
| Ron Ice | R. C. Ice & Associates | rcice@pacbell.net | 714-777-1297 |
| Wayne Gisler | Harris County/Houston Transtar | wayne_gisler@co.harris.tx.us | 713-881-3189 |
| Mike Ogden | Klote Associates | mike.ogden@klote.com | 281-589-7257 |
| Randy Ronning | Caltrans HQ | randy.ronning@dot.ca.gov | 916-654-7312 |
| Robert B. "Tip" Franklin, Jr. | Lockheed Martin | robert.b.franklin@lmco.com | 303-971-5738 |
| John Lathrop | Strategic Insights | jolathrop@aol.com | 650-941-4950 |
| Bo Strickland | AASHTO | strickbo@aol.com | 703-281-6510 |
| Kurt Aufschneider | NJDOT | kurtaufschneider@dot.state.nj.us | 609-866-4980 |
| James Mona | ConnDOT | i-95jmona@aol.com | 860-594-3450 |
| Jerry Althauser | WSDOT | althaug@wsdot.wa.gov | 206=726-6752 |
| Ann Lorscheider | NCDOT | alorscheider@dot.state.nc.us | 919-250-4151 |
| Paul E. Thorpe | Open Systems Solutions | thorpe@oss.com | 732-249-5107 |
| David Kelley | Sub Carrier Systems | davidkelley@socketcity.com | 626-915-4488 |
| Andy Macfarlane | Phoenix Fire Department | amacfarl@ci.phoenix.az.us | 602-262-7814 |
| Chester H. Chandler | Florida DOT | c.h.chandler@ieee.org | 850-921-0973 |
| Andy Schoka | Mitretek Systems | schoka@mitretek.org | 202-488-5702 |
| James M. Cheeks | ITE | jcheeks@vax.ite.org | 202-554-8050 x131 |
| Edward L. Mark | NYSDOT | emark@gw.dot.state.ny.us | 914-451-5701 |
| Dave Helman | FHWA | ||
| Tom Kurihara | TKstds Management | tkstds@mindspring.com | 703-516-9650 |
Monday, 26 April
Old Business
Minutes from Phoenix approved as corrected:
The proposed agenda for today was adopted.
The following agenda items were added:
Chester Chandler described Battelle Labs’ testing effort.
The P1512 standard has been included on the TEA-21 list of critical standards, both as a national standard and as a foundation standard.
Copies of Chester Chandler’s ITSA presentation on P1512
will be sent to Ann Lorscheider,
Kurt Aufschneider, and Andy Schoka.
Arrivals and Departures
Ken Brooke is departing the working group and transferring to a new project with the Washington, DC Metropolitan Police Department.
Timothy Schoch, ARTEMIS (tim.schoch@trw.com) is a new member.
John Nevia, TRW (jhnevis@aol.com) is a new member.
Andy MacFarlane will pursue recruiting members from the COMCARE Alliance.
John C. Allen of the ICF Consulting Group volunteered for membership, and is a candidate for the HAZMAT volume sub working group.
Wayne Gisler (wayne-gisler@co.harris.tx.us)
Andy Schoka
Mike Ogden
ITE TIM Committee Report from John Corbin
The IMWG is invited to participate in the 5 May 99 conference call at 10:00 CDT, (312) 470-0009, Code 27062.
On June 7, ITE is sponsoring an IM training session.
Reports from Officers
No reports were given.
Announcements
Tom Kurihara is now the ISO TC204 TAG liaison.
An ITS Council has been established in IEEE.
Tip Franklin has set up a tour for Tuesday evening with the Las Vegas Area Control of Traffic Signalization Center.
Wayne Gisler and Mike Ogden were nominated as co-Secretary.
The sub working group leaders were realigned to the following:
1512.1, Traffic Management, Tip Franklin
1512.2, Public Safety, Andy MacFarlane
1512.3, HAZMAT, Vacant
1512a, Emergency Management Data Dictionary
The general meeting format for future working group meetings
was set by Chester Chandler to be an initial joint meeting, then the sub
working groups will meet in split session, and the entire group will rejoin
for an ending session.
Meeting schedule for 1999:
Motion by tip Franklin, seconded by Ken Brooke to defer the tabletop exercise (TTX) until the companion 1512 volumes were started.
Motion to amend by Ann Lorscheider, seconded by Andy MacFarlane to encourage holding a mini TTX prior to the large TTX.
Amendment passed with 12 yes, 0 no, and 2 not voting.
Amended motion passed with 9 yes, 5 no, and 5 not voting.
The list of balloters is due to Trish Gerden by 3 May.
Edits and comments on the draft standard resolved between 3 May and 14 May.
The final draft to be posted on the web page by 17 May.
The consensus working group vote on the final draft to be held 24 May to 26 May.
Approved draft to SCC32 by 27 May.
End of 30-day ballot invitation on 7 June.
45-day ballot period from 14 June – 28 Jul.
Next IMWG meeting to be held in Minneapolis, MN 11-13 Aug, in conjunction with the APCO conference.
Next following IMWG meeting to be held in Washington,
DC 3-5 Nov, which will be a workshop with TTX.
Tuesday, 27 April
The working group decided to post a critical discussion issue on the Fire-Rescue Med conference bulletin board in an effort to attract attendees and involve them in a discussion with the group. "Real-Time Interagency Information Exchange."
Reference John Lathrop’s "Thought-Starters for Work Plan for P1512"
The group agreed that policy should be decided on the following, without devolving into ASN.1 technical discussions:
Structures
IM LRMS
Optional Data Items
Data Registration
Steward
Submitter
A need was identified to add the solicitation, incorporation, and utilization of volunteer effort into work plans.
Kurt Aufschneider moved to do P1512.1, P1512.2, P1512.3, and P1512a concurrently in five calendar quarters of effort. Seconded by Ed Mark.
Jim Mona moved to amend by deleting "in five calendar quarters." Seconded by Jerry Althouser. Approved 10 Yes, 3 No, 2 Not Voting.
Amended motion approved 12 Yes, 1 No, 2 Not Voting.
Kurt Aufschneider moved to leave data elements in Section 6 and add note that data elements will be included in Volume a. Approved 7 Yes, 4 No, 6 Not Voting!
The group decided not to import the P1489-required meta-attributes
into P1512.
Ballot Pool Formation
Chester Chandler will submit a list to SCC32 regarding adding the following in time for the 26 June Standards Board meeting:
David Helman
Ed Mark
Kurt Aufschneider
Wayne Gisler
Mike Ogden
Ron Ice
Randy Ronning
Kunwar Rajendra
Ken Brooke
Jack Brown
Chester Chandler will also seek clarification from T.
Gerden regarding adding all working group members to the ballot pool.
Fire-Rescue Critical Issues Discussion
The following medics responded to the group’s invitation, and participated in a lively discussion
Joe Aldworth, City of Madison Fire Department, (608) 266-4201, jAldworth.com.net
Mike Dobson, Sacramento County Fire Department, (916) 636-1800
Thomas V. Lyons, Jr., City of Clifton, NJ Fire Department, (973)471-7288, tvlyons@aol.com
Ken Hines, Garden City MI Fire Department, (734) 422-1416, khines@gcfd.org
Jerry Allen, Murrieta Fire Department, CA, (909) 677-5511, murrfire@e22.net
Dwaine Booth, Pinellas County, FL EMS/Fire Admin, (727)582-2000, dbooth@co.inellas.fl.us
Keith Gault, Sacramento Fire Department, (916) 264-8100, gault@inreach.com
The discussion generated the following talking points:
Location is extremely important. The last/next sign seen can be the only location information provided. Tenth mile markers are useful, but clear standard signage is needed.
The mechanism of injury provides important information, and layman’s terminology is acceptable.
HAZMAT information is critical.
Information status boards are useful for informing motorists.
Route closure is a critical process, which is done to
protect responders and victims.
Booze, Allen, Hamilton (BAH) Presentation
BAH, Sam Subramaniam (703) 598-6110, made a presentation
regarding their Incident Management Implementation Guide, a FHWA contract
under Joe Peters.
Wednesday, 28 April
Andy MacFarlane made a presentation on the 1512.x workplan outline:
Then, the workplans will be coordinated through Chester Chandler.
Then they will be posted on the web site for group review.
Then they will be submitted through SCC32.
Andy Schoka and Ron Ice were appointed to manage the EMDD database.
Robert Lockhard (Deputy Chief, Arlington Heights Fire Department, 33 South Arlington Heights Rd., Arlington heights, IL 60005; (847) 358-5457, rlockhart@vah.com ) stopped in at the group’s invitation and discussed his experiences with implementing a large, multi-departmental EMS information reporting system.
Action Item Summary
Respectfully submitted,
ken