Re: [ieee] RE: Hand Recounts of votes recorded on DREs

["Brit Williams" <britw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Not to mention that if the paper receipt from an ATM disagrees with the
bank's electronic record the electronic record is, by law, considered
correct.

Brit

----- Original Message -----
From: "Vern Williams" <vernonw74@EARTHLINK.NET>
To: "Arthur Keller" <ark@SOE.UCSC.EDU>
Cc: <williamsv@saic.com>; "Stanley A. Klein" <sklein@CPCUG.ORG>; "Andrew
Berg" <andrewb@votehere.com>; "Hogzett, Robert" <rghogzett@ESSVOTE.COM>;
"'Barbara Simons'" <simons@ACM.ORG>; <pklammer@ACM.ORG>;
<stds-1583-stg3@IEEE.ORG>; <stds-1583-disc@IEEE.ORG>;
<stds-1583-tg1@IEEE.ORG>; <stds-1583-tg2@IEEE.ORG>
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: [ieee] RE: Hand Recounts of votes recorded on DREs


> One of the differences that you did not address is the 22 month
> retention requirement and the handling required to look at the paper
> record and then cancel it and vote again if you did not select the
> correct candidate the first time.  Additionally, ATMs are in constant
> use, not put away for 2 years between uses.  I have had to go to a
> different ATM several (~5 times that I can specifically remember) times
> due to one not working.  I do not know if it was out of ink, paper or
> money, but it was not available to use.  Additionally, the receipt
> printer at Gas stations have reliability problems as well and I have had
> to go inside many times to get a receipt.
> R/ Vern
>
>
> Arthur Keller wrote:
>
>> Does someone know how often ATMs go down because their printers don't
>> work.  Putting a new ink cartridge at the start of an election should
>> solve most of those problems.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Arthur
>>
>> At 11:16 AM -0600 12/10/04, Vern Williams wrote:
>>
>>> Stan,
>>> I think you need a reality check.  The most failure prone component of
>>> the "paper trail" system you seem so obsessed with is the printer with
>>> it's mechanical parts and ink delivery system.  You state many of your
>>> pet opinions as fact which is far from true.
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>
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