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Title: Request for postponement of October 5th teleconference
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Unless Dr. Corry's challenge can be substantially rebutted, I would agree: the initial postings to the private web page were great strides in the right direction, but it's not clear that they were followed through.
 

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From: alkolwicz [mailto:alkolwicz@qwest.net]
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 3:27 PM
To: stds-1583@ieee.org
Subject: RE: Request for postponement of October 5th teleconference

Herb,

 

I join Dr. Corry in his recommendation that we delay Tuesday’s meeting until a complete rough draft of the standard has been posted for at least two weeks.

 

It does not make good sense to proceed with the meeting just to give the appearance of making progress.  This is too important.

 

Yours,

 

Al Kolwicz

 


From: Dr. Charles E. Corry [mailto:ccorry@ejfi.org]
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 10:17 AM
To: stds-1583@ieee.org
Subject: Request for postponement of October 5th teleconference

 

    I would suggest that the P1583 teleconference currently scheduled to commence at 10 AM CDT on October 5th be postponed until a complete draft of the voting equipment standard has been made available and has been posted for at least two weeks, though 30 days to review would be in conformance with our rules.

    In justification I note the following:

 

1. No new information on the draft standard has been posted since September 18-19.

 

2. Draft version 5.3 posted on September 18th is missing some 100 pages that were present in version 5.0 for the last ballot. I am quite uncertain at present what has been omitted and what added in draft version 5.3.  I certainly do not have the time to play detective to find out for myself.

 

3. No complete version of the standards is currently available. Even if a complete version were made available today it would be impossible for most committee members to review it prior to next Tuesday in any meaningful fashion.

 

4.  I submitted some 220 comments during the ballot on v. 5, a number of which were in regard to comments I had made about version 4 that had been adopted but not incorporated in v 5. It will take me at least two weeks of diligent effort to review the response to all of my comments once I have a complete draft available. That will certainly not occur before October 5th.

 

5. Having nothing before me to review I would be left without any option but to once again vote no on any motion that these standards be sent to ballot. Having submitted numerous comments on every draft, including Brit William's initial one three years ago,  I am as eager as anyone to finalize the first edition of these standards. But I cannot, in good conscience, vote to proceed until I have had a reasonable amount of time to review what we propose to ballot on.

 

6. The published agenda for the October 5th meeting has two basic action items. One is an update on status of the draft standard and that can certainly be accomplished easier and more conveniently via email. Secondly, as noted above, without a draft standard and time to review it, there is little purpose in putting forth a motion to take a nebulous document to ballot. Thus, there is currently no reason for a formal meeting.

 

7. The October 5th meeting can be delayed with no logistical problems. As it is simply a teleconference, no change in airline or hotel reservations are required if the meeting is rescheduled. Therefore, the October 5th meeting can be postponed without significant inconvenience to P1583 members.

 

    On a personal note, to proceed now has the flavor of being sold "vaporware." As a research manager of long experience I find that approach quite objectionable and insulting. No matter what external time constraints may exist, e.g., EAC, we only make fools of ourselves to attempt to push through incomplete and unreviewed standards that will serve no one well, least of all American citizens.

    Therefore, I see a rescheduling of the October 5th teleconference as being in all of our best interests.

Charles E. Corry, Ph.D., F.G.S.A.

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