RE: [Fwd: SUO: Gathering questions and issues with IEEE motion]
John,
You ask why we just don't vote again? My answer is that we took a
vote, which I believe was valid, so there is no need to take another one.
In my opinion, the case for the different voting rules is so flimsy it's
almost a joke, so I'm appealing the directive. I have to pursue what I
believe is correct. Nobody has yet shown any holes in the Teknowledge legal
opinion.
This is not just an issue for the SUMO vote. IFF would fail also
based on one set of rules cited. Also, we now have 65 members who will have
voting rights within the next 6 months. So to take any vote, we'll need 33
YES votes. And we can't remove non-voters from the list without a 2/3 vote
to create some rules to do so. These new voting rules could cause major
problems in SUO.
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: John F. Sowa [mailto:sowa@bestweb.net]
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 10:13 PM
To: Robert Grayson Spillers
Cc: Frank Farance; Lowell; Lowell G Johnson; Judith Gorman; Robert
Dwyer; Lyle Smith; e.herz@ieee.org; 'Standard-Upper-Ontology '
Subject: Re: [Fwd: SUO: Gathering questions and issues with IEEE motion]
Folks,
Why all this endless dispute?
The purpose of the regulations is to speed up the process and
avoid endless wrangling, such as repeated requests for new votes.
But this fighting over whether or not a new vote is required is
even worse.
If we took another vote now, there are only three possibile outcomes:
1. SUMO wins by a clear majority.
2. SUMO loses by a clear majority.
3. We end up with another ambiguous situation.
In case #1, all dispute is finished, and work on SUMO can continue
as before.
In case #2, all dispute is finished, but work on SUMO can still
continue as before by those people who want to pursue it.
In case #3, SUMO is in a limbo status, but work on SUMO can still
continue as before by those people who want to pursue it.
Bottom line: Thsoe people who want to contiue working on SUMO
can do so in any case. We are still very far from having a suitable
standard, and there will have to be more votes for an ultimate
standard. So any of these current votes don't really mean very
much anyway.
So let's just vote, and stop the endless wrangling.
John Sowa