SUO: Re: Gathering Questions (No vs. Abstain) -- resend
At 15:29 2002-01-23 -0500, John F. Sowa wrote:
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> Frank,
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> Please note that your interpretation is wrong. We have three options
> in voting: Yes, no, and abstain. Each one has a distinct meaning,
> and no two of them are "equivalent".
More precisely, we have three options in responding: Yes, No, and Abstain. Two of them are considered casting a vote (as defined by Roberts).
No one is taking away your right to abstain. I'm just pointing out that your method of counting for decision-making means that No votes and Abstain responses have the same effect. In terms of decision-making, their meaning is determined by their effect in the decision (i.e., No and Abstain produce the same effect). I think most SUO members understand the distinction between (Rule #1) Yes > No vs. (Rule #2) Yes > No + Abstain and that Rule #2 means "my Abstain response effectively counts as a No vote" ... and SUO members want a method of responding in a way that permits a neutral response (which means they want Rule #1).
You haven't demonstrated that in rule #2, No and Abstain produce different effects in the outcome. And you haven't disputed the analysis in Robert's.
I think SUO members "get it".
-FF
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