RE: SUO: *Date 16 Feb 2002
When you state: 'these ontologies are supposed to be based
on some kind of practice', isn't there a certain vagueness evident?
The quality 'proven-in-practice' is exactly what some people
are demanding of any candidate UO,
- not a domain ontology together with some assurance
that its mother and father are both UOs,
- not a vast ontology of everything that comes with an UO
inside somewhere, take-it-or-leave-it.
- not a bland assurance that such-and-such UO is 'widely-used',
simply repeating the phrase doesn't make it true .
Other qualities could be expected also, such as
unbiased evaluation, repeatability of evaluation,
necessity of solution X when no other solution is
as good wrt elaborated end-to-end requirements
based on the PAR.
Its understandable that individuals will choose
some placeholder ontology *now* , thats an economic
decision. The first one offered is likely to be
accepted, given the fast frugal nature of individual
choice.
I'll certainly vote no to any proposal offered without
a lot of proof. Look it up anytime under "16 Feb 2002".
Murray Bent
Member, IEEE Standards Association
>From: "Danny Ayers" <danny666@virgilio.it>
>To: "John F. Sowa" <sowa@bestweb.net>; "Jon Awbrey" <jawbrey@oakland.edu>
>Cc: "Stand Up Ontology" <standard-upper-ontology@ieee.org>
>Sent: 17.febbraio.2002 0.50
>Subject: RE: SUO: *Date 16 Feb 2002
>
>> However, I am sure if a SUO were carved in stone today (e.g. by ISO), it
>> would be redundant in a few weeks time - surely it is possible to agree on
>> a standard v0.1, that once people had chance to play with it would return as
>> v0.1.1 and so on.
>
>
>>This would strike me as far more productive than non-starters & political
>gaming.
>
>
>I agree (once again). And as a matter of fact I think that Sumo (and Cyc)
>appear particularly promising (at least to me) precisely because these
>ontologies are supposed to be based on some kind of practice too.
>All the best. Roberto Bordogna.
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