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Re: SUO: Status of the SUMO





Mr. Grayson,

Comments aimed as a personnel attack on someone has NO place in this forum,
especially of a gloating nature as you have stated below.  I do not care if
you send Mr. Farance a personnel e-mail attacking his professional
qualifications, but I do care if you send it to this reflector.

Regards,

Bruce E Peoples


                                                                                                                                      
                    Robert Grayson Spillers                                                                                           
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                    02/24/2002 07:01 PM                                                                                               
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Frank.
I can accept "declare" in place of "recognized".  The point being that the
official status of the SUMO vote is that it failed and that its only status
within the SUO WG is as a document that is "the work of the authors and not
approved or otherwise endorsed by this working group. "

Whether or not I invalidated any of your points, the significant event was
that the IEEE Corporate Governance Office and the IEEE-SA Board of
Governors invalidated all of them.  An inconvenient thing to happen to one
who poses as a expert in "the standards process".

Bob

Frank Farance wrote:

At 14:50 2002-02-24 -0800, Robert Grayson Spillers wrote:


SUO WG,

At long last the chair has recognized that the SUMO vote in August of 2001
failed.



I wouldn't say that the chair recognized that the vote failed, the chair
was directed to declare (at least for now) that the vote has failed.  It's
pretty clear from Jim's appeal that he does not believe the vote has
failed.  As you can see from the P&Ps, etc., the vote has passed ... and I
know that you can read the rules, too (so can everyone else) ... none of my
points were invalidated by you.  Unforuntately (for now), some of the key
people at IEEE were unable to read the rules (or the statutes).  Hopefully,
this gets fixed soon.

I know you disagree ... no need to respond.

-FF
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