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Re: SUO progress report - Re: SUO: SUO WG vs. SUO Project




Graham,

        I am not in favor of requiring quarterly reports.  Here are a few
reasons.

        a. Had we required them for the past two years, I doubt either
starter document would be any further along.

        b. This is a volunteer model.  I don't feel volunteers can or
should require other volunteers report to them.

        c. To the degree a document is making progess, those involved
will know the status and don't need a report.

        Now, if anyone wants to volunteer to do such reports, go for it.

Jim Schoening

On Mon, 3 Jun 2002 22:39:30 +1000 (EST) =?iso-8859-1?q?Kestrel?=
<kestrela4@yahoo.com.au> writes:
> 
> Jim et al, 
> .          Would there be any merit in having a regular (say 
> quarterly) progress
> report, so that others can be advised of what is being achieved each
> period?  
> . 
> .        I feel it could be valuable if such a report would state as 
> clearly as
> possible tangible products and achievements made in the reporting 
> period,
> even if it's to include things like: 
> . 
> o        "the principle, that ........, was verified / refuted". 
> . 
> o        "it was demonstrated/proven that ........ produces 
> ........". 
> . 
> o        "the 'name x' module / sub-sub-sub-system of product 'name 
> y', which has
> the role/function of ......, was completed. 
> . 
> .        Perhaps a representrative from each activity could produce 
> input from
> that group. By combining the reports, overall progress could be more
> readily assessed, and more cross-fertilisation could occur. It seems 
> to me
> this could be to everyones' benefit. 
> . 
> .        I only suggested a quarterly frequency, because there has 
> been a
> perspective that the whole development project shouldn't take very 
> long,
> though I recognise it has already taken quite a while. What would be 
> the
> best reporting frequency? 
> . 
> .        I feel one benefit could be the provision of actual 
> milestones of which
> is achieved. Something arising out of that could be a valuable 
> insight into
> what this rather exploratory project turns out to entail. 
> . 
> .        For people to consider. 
> . 
> . 
> Cheers 
> Graham Horn 
> . 
> . 
> . 
> . 
>  --- jim.s3@juno.com wrote: > 
> > Adam,
> > 
> >         You wrote: 
> > 
> > > Let me rephrase my  statement  then simply as a request that we 
> split
> > off the language issue into a  separate PAR.
> > 
> >         This is an option that needs considerable discussion, so 
> it is
> > best held until after the group decides if it wants to work on the 
> Cyc
> > items.  
> > 
> > Jim Schoening
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > Adam
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >Jim
> > > >
> > > >On Sat, 25 May 2002 08:22:14 -0700 Adam Pease 
> > > <apease@ks.teknowledge.com>
> > > >writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > Jim,
> > > > >    In my view, the OpenCyc ontology certainly addresses the 
> PAR, 
> > > but
> > > > > CycL
> > > > > and CycML do not.  They are simply related material that 
> > > supports
> > > > > the
> > > > > ontology, much in the same way SUMO is stated in SUO-KIF and 
> has 
> > > a
> > > > > translation to DAML.  Standardizing CycL or CycML would be 
> > > separate
> > > > >
> > > > > projects under separate PARs.
> > > > >
> > > > > Adam
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > 
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