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Re: ONTSUO: 04 Jun 2002 -- Curiouser & Curiouser




On 6/3/02 23:56, "Jon Awbrey" <jawbrey@oakland.edu> wrote:

> So go ahead and call yourself an "Ontological Knowledge Engineer",
> print up those business cards, attach the prefixes "ontology of this"
> or "mereo-that" to every subject in sight as a way of wiping it clean
> of all the work that has gone before and claiming it for your own to
> start over from scratch -- what does it it matter if mereo-topology
> looks like a cartoon version of the state of topology 250 yrs ago?
> Just don't go saying that stuff in front of people who really
> engineer the knowledge, the hard way, if you are not prepared
> for a lot of laughing, and not up their sleeves.
> 
> And this is thanks I get for trying to save you that embarrassent.

Well, Jon...

At least I'm capable of being embarrassed.  Comes with the territory when
one realizes that one doesn't know everything.  It is through such things
that one grows and learns.

And as far as your background is concerned, I would not be so quick to judge
others in that they have not had the magically enlightening experiences you
have had.  Your background and mine are more similar than you think.  And
the same is true of many others on this list - you do not own the magic key
to the truth any more than the rest of us do.  The difference is I and
others are humble enough to admit this and you are not.

Also, who is it that is saying "ontology of this" and "mereo-that", wiping
what has been done before away and claiming the work as one's own?  That's a
serious charge, don't you think?  Shouldn't you name the individuals you are
accusing of such behavior and provide evidence that they are doing so?

So again, I repeat what I have said many times before on this list - it is
incumbent upon you to "put up or shut up".  Anyone with as much insight as
you claim into the real nature of things should be capable of miraculous
deeds.  Let's see them.  Of course nobody can make you either put up or shut
up, but then again, nobody has to listen to you.  That's what /dev/null is
for.

 .bill