SUO: RE: Copyright issues
Jim,
I read Pat to be also asking a different question related to the process
whereby the OpenCyc document is developed. And this may have an impact upon
people's assessment of the worth of progressing with it.
I presume we can take it as a given that once the document is accepted by
the SUO, the team working on it can change it as it sees fit, subject to the
correct voting procedures.
I would appreciate a little more detail on what the process for taking the
document forward might be. I was a little surprised that the SUMO proposers
wanted all development restricted to ONLY suggestions to amendments to
specific axioms. Is there a similar desire on the part of the OpenCyc
proposers?
Furthermore, one of OpenCyc's strength's is that it is 'tried and tested'
and we can have a degree of confidence in its internal consistency. One
aspect of this is that any changes to the highest levels have a high cost -
in trying to ensure the internal consistency of the new structure and trying
and testing it. So one could understand if there were to be restrictions on
what was open for discussion. I wonder if any such restrictions are
envisaged at this stage.
I appreciate that you are not the best person to comment on these. Maybe the
proposers can make some comments.
Chris
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Sent: 03 June 2002 04:59
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Subject: SUO: Copyright issues
Pat,
You are correct to be concerned with copyright issues of OpenCyc.
The questions is whether we take several months to work this out before
the group votes on whether it wants to work on OpenCyc, or after. IEEE
requires copyright issues be resolved before the END of the standards
development process, not at the beginning. I personnally don't want to
spend a lot of time working on this issue until I know if the group wants
to work on OpenCyc. If the vote passes, I will address this right away.
Jim
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Jim --
I would be interested to know who would volunteer to
be the technical editor of OpenCyc if it became an
IEEE-SUO candidate, and if it would be allowed to diverge
at all from CYC to accommodate other ideas? If there is
going to be a strong resistance to incorporating
non-CYC structures, I don't think it would be a
good candidate by itself. Portions of it could nevertheless
be used, if the permissions are clear. Although Jim
has received assurances (I think) that parts of the original
public CYC can be extracted and used (with inclusion of the
CYC copyright notice in applications), the restrictions in
the OpenCyc documentation seem to be stricter. Do we not need
additional comment from the copyright owner regarding this
specific version?
Pat Cassidy
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> Ballot Question: "Should the IEEE SUO WG commence work on OpenCyc,
> CycML, and CycL, with the intent of developing them into one or more
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> Background:
> CycL is a language for the representation of knowledge using
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> OpenCyc Ontology.
> CycML is a specification for serializing knowledge based on the
> OpenCyc Ontology.
> OpenCyc is suitable for automated logical inference to support
> knowledge-based reasoning applications, including e-commerce and other
> applications enabled by natural language understanding. It also
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> Documentation pertaining to the OpenCyc ontology (to the extent
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> The DAML version of OpenCyc v0.6b
> http://www.cyc.com/2002/04/08/cyc.daml
> The HyperDAML version of OpenCyc v0.6b
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http://www.daml.org/cgi-bin/hyperdaml?http://www.cyc.com/2002/04/08/cyc.d
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> OpenCyc Selected Vocabulary v0.6b (not the entire Upper
> Ontology; organized by "subject clumps", which are not part of the
> ontology) http://www.cyc.com/cycdoc/vocab/vocab-toc.html
> The Syntax of CycL
http://www.cyc.com/cycdoc/ref/cycl-syntax.html
> The latest schema for CycML
http://opencyc.sourceforge.net/cycml.xsd
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