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SUO: RE: A New Fundamentally Different Formal Motion




At 07:30 2003-06-09, Adam Pease wrote:

>Eric,
>
>>Even if this group could or should toss out those members that don't
>>really believe in a single SUO, the relatively unified remaining group
>>members (including myself) would not be able to let go of their pet
>>content.  The content merging process would be a battle at every
>>pair/group of competing axioms.
>
>I think such a "battle" could actually be extremely 
>productive.  Conversations about particular axioms is exactly what I 
>would expect a more focused version of this group to be engaged 
>in.  Even if agreement could not be reached, then we would have a far 
>more concrete justification for particular, possibly incompatible 
>theories.  If agreement were reached, then we'd have achieved a single 
>standard.  No matter what, we'd still learn something.
>
>Adam


Adam,

I think for those that have worked with large-scale declarative 
systems, whether rule-oriented or logic-oriented, the value of debate 
and conversation about specific formal expressions of ontological 
conceptions or intent is limited. In Cyc, for example, the range of 
unintended consequences is huge and few people can fully anticipate the 
actual result of including a particular axiom in its knowledge base.

It seems to me that what's needed is a way to experiment readily with 
different axiomatizations, not just talk about them. If Cyc's logic 
were better specified, it would constitute a platform for such an 
experimental effort, but since it differs so widely and unspecifiedly 
from FOL or any other well-defined logic, it's value in experimental 
ontology design is limited as well.

Randall Schulz